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Re: Uh oh! Bought an 11 today but only charging 6 bars--return?

Sun May 14, 2017 8:33 am

The SOC (state of charge) indicators which are the long bars will range from 12 bars at full charge to 0 bars when fully discharged regardless of the number of capacity bars (short bars). The 80% charge option only works through the charge timer of the navigation screen. It will stop charging at either 9 or 10 SOC bars (long bars). With 8 capacity bars showing (2 red and 6 white for total of 8 showing and 4 missing) the car probably has a full-charge range of about 50 miles combined city/highway with A/C use (less if tires have higher rolling resistance than originals). I made my 52-mile round trip mostly freeway commute with normal A/C use in the summer when the 2011 was down to 8 capacity bars before Nissan replaced the battery, but I had essentially no reserve and would not have been able to make it during colder winter temperatures. I started each day at full charge and was into VLBW (very low battery warning) when I arrived home.

I am not going to tell you whether to keep the car or return it. Prices on used LEAFs vary greatly depending upon vehicle condition, battery condition, and location.
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Re: Uh oh! Bought an 11 today but only charging 6 bars--return?

Sun May 14, 2017 2:18 pm

I worked with Nissan last month to get the battery replaced on my Jan 4 2011 LEAF. It didn't qualify for the free replacement, and lost the 4th capacity bar about 7 months past the 5 year warranty period. They offered me an 80% / 20% deal, where I paid 20% to get the battery replaced (about $1,230). They ordered in the battery, and the swap took about 1.5 days. They've done many of these swaps at the dealer, and it was smooth. Free loaner too.

I got this process started by calling the Nissan phone number (877-664-2738). They will ask you to get a battery test done at the local dealer so they can see what the status is.

Even if you decide to keep it, I think you got a decent deal for $5K. There's plenty of life left in the car....

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Re: Uh oh! Bought an 11 today but only charging 6 bars--return?

Sun May 14, 2017 2:38 pm

SageBrush wrote:Nissan has a program for battery replacement out of warranty where they (often, but not guaranteed) split the cost with the owner depending on how far past the warranty. If you are willing to pay $2 - 3k for a replacement, it is worth pursuing.

Well, Nissan's never formally announced anything like this. They've just sometimes been willing to help but it's been very YMMV.

SageBrush wrote:IIRC, your model year lets you choose whether to charge up to 80% or 100% of maximum available capacity (in your case, I think 8 bars.) 80% is better if you don't need the extra range, but the choice should be available. Read the fine user manual for instructions. This probably explains why your charge overnight brought you up to 6 bars of charge: 80% of 8 bars capacity equals 6.4 bars of charge.

On an '11, the only way to do it is via the charging timer. See viewtopic.php?p=336053#p336053.

If you charge to 80%, usually charging will stop at either 9 or 10 fuel bars, at least for me. I don't if that changes at all/much if a car has lost 4 capacity bars though.

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Re: Uh oh! Bought an 11 today but only charging 6 bars--return?

Sun May 14, 2017 9:06 pm

Randy wrote:I worked with Nissan last month to get the battery replaced on my Jan 4 2011 LEAF. It didn't qualify for the free replacement, and lost the 4th capacity bar about 7 months past the 5 year warranty period. They offered me an 80% / 20% deal, where I paid 20% to get the battery replaced (about $1,230). They ordered in the battery, and the swap took about 1.5 days. They've done many of these swaps at the dealer, and it was smooth. Free loaner too.

I got this process started by calling the Nissan phone number (877-664-2738). They will ask you to get a battery test done at the local dealer so they can see what the status is.

Even if you decide to keep it, I think you got a decent deal for $5K. There's plenty of life left in the car....


Wow...thanks so much for the info!! I will call about this tomorrow! So, given my 8 bars, would I see a significant boost to justify upgrading the battery? And, I suppose I also need to account for not only GAINING more, but some protection against losing even more. That amount of money isn't significant for the cheap peace of mind.

But, as a guess, what kind of a jump would you guess? Was your prior seeing about the same?

Thanks!!

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Re: Uh oh! Bought an 11 today but only charging 6 bars--return?

Sun May 14, 2017 11:03 pm

A new battery would increase your range around 50% ... and I imagine give you at least a couple more years of productive use. It will certainly help the resale value.
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Re: Uh oh! Bought an 11 today but only charging 6 bars--return?

Mon May 15, 2017 10:56 am

Well… I called and had zero luck. They said due to the fact that I just bought it it is something I should have known when I purchased and just the risk of buying used. Guess that takes care of that. Ha!

i'm not one to give up easily, but I have also read lots of reports here where people have spun their wheels for a long time with them.

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Re: Uh oh! Bought an 11 today but only charging 6 bars--return?

Mon May 15, 2017 11:10 am

That answer is about what I have come to expect from Nissan. Sorry, OP
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