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Re: Ran out of juice last night: a few questions about the trip

Sat Jul 29, 2017 3:28 pm

alozzy wrote:Where's everyone's sense of adventure! The OP ran out of available pack charge only a mile from home. From that adventure, he/she now has a better sense of the range limits of the car.


Yes I do. I should add that not bringing along the 120v Leaf charger and an extension cord was a mistake. There is a business with outdoor 120 outlets just about 8 miles from home. I'd have pulled over and charged for an hour or so had I been prepared. Might consider buying a second one so I don't have to constantly move it from garage to car and back.

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Re: Ran out of juice last night: a few questions about the trip

Sat Jul 29, 2017 3:36 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, LeafSpy must be run from a smartphone.


It doesn't have to have cell service. I used a $30 kyocera Event when I first got LeafSpy.


I must admit it is time for a new phone. Would make life with the Leaf much easier in a number of ways.

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Re: Ran out of juice last night: a few questions about the trip

Sun Jul 30, 2017 3:15 am

LeftieBiker wrote:I find it odd that everyone else seems to be ignoring the odd behavior of the SOC display. I'm still wondering if there is a charger or pack issue.


If it's a charger issue it should recur at other EVSEs.

LeafSpy is essential if you're driving at the low end, and will show a bad cell too.
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Re: Ran out of juice last night: a few questions about the trip

Sun Jul 30, 2017 3:27 am

rawlins02, Brattleboro has a good QC now, in the High-Grove St. parking lot a couple streets up from that garage with the Clipper Creek. Also one, but older and getting funky, at the Big Y in the Route 2 Greenfield Plaza. When you get a smartphone, download Plugshare.

Stay off 91 and take 5 to 116.
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'15 SV w/QC, Mfd 5/14, Leased 8/14, 292 GIDs, 64.38 Ahr when new
@ 36 months, 34k, 270 GID, 57.49 Ahr

'17 Bolt LT



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Re: Ran out of juice last night: a few questions about the trip

Sun Jul 30, 2017 6:23 am

DNAinaGoodWay wrote:rawlins02, Brattleboro has a good QC now, in the High-Grove St. parking lot a couple streets up from that garage with the Clipper Creek. Also one, but older and getting funky, at the Big Y in the Route 2 Greenfield Plaza. When you get a smartphone, download Plugshare.

Stay off 91 and take 5 to 116.


I'm aware of the QCs in Brattleboro and Greenfield. There is no charge to park in that garage after 6PM, so that's a free charge on the ClipperCreek L2. I see it's just $1 for the QC in Brattleboro, so cost is not an issue. But I've been trying to limit QC to 1-2 times a month at most. I could have stopped in Greenfield on the way home, just thought I'd make it. I suspect if I begin that trip with closer to a full charge, say 95%, drive slower, and recharge at the L2 for a half hour or so I would have 65-70% SOC to make it the 40 miles back home.

I-91 is a fairly straight drive, which I find appealing. Are you suggesting to avoid it because of the high speeds of other drivers? Google maps offers Rt 63 if wanting to avoid the interstate highway. It says taking Rt 63 is 3 miles shorter than I-91 and only 3 minute longer time. Might have to try that, or Rt 5 and 116. Must admit, I really like the idea of efficient driving in this car.

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Re: Ran out of juice last night: a few questions about the trip

Sun Jul 30, 2017 7:24 am

63 is good.

Yeah, highway speeds really suck power. There's little traffic on that stretch of 91, so other drivers will just blow by you. Min speed is 45 I think.

QCs won't kill your battery unless it's wicked hot out and the pack temp is high. QC can even improve the battery in some cases. In any case, it's made for trips like that. If you're only going to charge for a half hour, you'll get much more out of the QC, then fly home at 75 if you want to.

How often do you charge to 100% and balance the pack?
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Re: Ran out of juice last night: a few questions about the trip

Sun Jul 30, 2017 3:34 pm

DNAinaGoodWay wrote: How often do you charge to 100% and balance the pack?


Charge to 100% once or twice a month.

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Re: Ran out of juice last night: a few questions about the trip

Sun Jul 30, 2017 6:31 pm

If the GOM is showing close to (or less) than your distance to destination, slow down! As a rule of thumb every 5MPH speed reduction at highway speeds will get you an extra 10% range. I've managed to limp home a few times...

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Re: Ran out of juice last night: a few questions about the trip

Sun Jul 30, 2017 8:02 pm

An even better way to ensure that you arrive is to drive conservatively at the beginning of the trip. Then, once you see that you easily have enough range to get home, you can finish the trip in a relaxed manner, driving normally. I now do this in Winter.
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Re: Ran out of juice last night: a few questions about the trip

Mon Jul 31, 2017 4:52 am

Aussie wrote:If the GOM is showing close to (or less) than your distance to destination, slow down! As a rule of thumb every 5MPH speed reduction at highway speeds will get you an extra 10% range. I've managed to limp home a few times...


I look forward to seeing how range and efficiency differ on that trip at slower speeds. In looking at my route home, I went north a few miles before getting on the interstate and turning south. Those extra miles, several at highway speed, consumed probably 6-8% SOC more than the trip up to the event. That miscalculation made a big difference in ability to manage remaining charge.

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