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wishboneash
Posts: 100
Joined: Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:07 am
Delivery Date: 03 Jun 2011
Leaf Number: 3815
Location: San Francisco Bay area, CA

Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:18 pm

I am at about 203 GIDs (Leaf DD). Mileage ~ 59,000 on my 2011 Leaf. Lost 2 bars. First bar lost around 34k, 2nd around 40k. Round trip commute is 54-55 miles. GIDs left after commute ~ 50-60. Can get home with 10-14 miles left on guess-o-meter. This winter, I might be going to LB every day.
Nissan Leaf Silver SL
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mrringtone
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Joined: Sun Sep 13, 2015 8:16 pm
Delivery Date: 14 Sep 2015
Leaf Number: 001062

Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:54 am

On October 22, 2015 I drove 81 miles about 60% was highway driving. I own a 2011 with a new battery installed about a month ago.

woomstick
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Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:35 pm
Delivery Date: 28 Oct 2015

Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:40 pm

Hi, owner of a used 2012 Leaf SL with 33,000 miles here.

I lost the first capacity bar (11 of 12 now) after about a week of ownership, which was a bit of a bummer.

Because my round trip is 14 miles, I have only been charging to 80% every 2 or 3 days. I typically hit about 40-44 mile range before plugging in with 2-3 bars remaining. I use no A/C or heat, and the weather here in Nebraska has been getting colder - in the high 40's, low 50's. All of my driving is side roads, never going more than 35mph, and not much uphill driving. I'm in ECO mode the enitre time.

Am I seeing normal range?

GetOffYourGas
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Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:56 pm
Delivery Date: 09 Mar 2012
Location: Syracuse, NY

Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:26 pm

woomstick wrote:Hi, owner of a used 2012 Leaf SL with 33,000 miles here.

I lost the first capacity bar (11 of 12 now) after about a week of ownership, which was a bit of a bummer.

Because my round trip is 14 miles, I have only been charging to 80% every 2 or 3 days. I typically hit about 40-44 mile range before plugging in with 2-3 bars remaining. I use no A/C or heat, and the weather here in Nebraska has been getting colder - in the high 40's, low 50's. All of my driving is side roads, never going more than 35mph, and not much uphill driving. I'm in ECO mode the enitre time.

Am I seeing normal range?


It's hard to tell from that description, but my guess is yes. Your best bet is to charge up to full, find a nice flat stretch of road (should be easy in NE), and drive the car at a steady speed. Compare your range to LBW, or better yet to VLBW, to Tony's (82%) range chart at that speed.
~Brian

EV Fleet:
2011 Torqeedo Travel 1003 electric outboard on a 22' sailboat
2012 Leaf SV (traded for Bolt)
2015 C-Max Energi (302A package)
2017 Bolt Premier

lmgbaumann
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Joined: Mon Nov 02, 2015 2:08 pm
Delivery Date: 30 Oct 2015
Leaf Number: 020455

Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:25 am

I just purchased a 2012 Nissan Leaf a week ago and this is what I am getting. I have taken it to a certified technician and was told it passed all diagnostics. Any suggestions? By the way, I just got a new charging battery.

Starting SOC : 100%
Range (till battery low) : 65 miles
Range (till turtle) : 3 miles I think
Efficiency : miles/Kwh (from the dash, not carwings) 65 miles ?
Driving : describe hwy/city/mixed/speeds here in Greensboro, flat usually, no hills, about 35-35 mph city
Climate : Temperatures, use of climate control climate is about 70 usually

Feel free to give multiple ranges under different conditions.


This is my primary vehicle and I thought I would be getting at least 80-90 on a full charge.

GetOffYourGas
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Location: Syracuse, NY

Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:48 pm

lmgbaumann wrote:I just purchased a 2012 Nissan Leaf a week ago and this is what I am getting. I have taken it to a certified technician and was told it passed all diagnostics. Any suggestions? By the way, I just got a new charging battery.

Starting SOC : 100%
Range (till battery low) : 65 miles
Range (till turtle) : 3 miles I think
Efficiency : miles/Kwh (from the dash, not carwings) 65 miles ?
Driving : describe hwy/city/mixed/speeds here in Greensboro, flat usually, no hills, about 35-35 mph city
Climate : Temperatures, use of climate control climate is about 70 usually

Feel free to give multiple ranges under different conditions.


This is my primary vehicle and I thought I would be getting at least 80-90 on a full charge.


When you say 65 miles from 100% to "low battery", I assume you mean the first time the car warns you about "low battery charge". It actually warns you twice before you get to turtle. In my experience, given the rest of what you have said (temps around 70, 65 miles to first warning), I would expect you to get another 10-15 miles to turtle, not 3. Give it a try, you'll be surprised how much farther you can drive.
~Brian

EV Fleet:
2011 Torqeedo Travel 1003 electric outboard on a 22' sailboat
2012 Leaf SV (traded for Bolt)
2015 C-Max Energi (302A package)
2017 Bolt Premier

lmgbaumann
Posts: 3
Joined: Mon Nov 02, 2015 2:08 pm
Delivery Date: 30 Oct 2015
Leaf Number: 020455

Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Fri Nov 06, 2015 2:03 pm

So, for clarity, when it is 100% charged, and I am only seeing 65 miles in the lower right corner, that is normal?

GetOffYourGas
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Location: Syracuse, NY

Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Fri Nov 06, 2015 2:33 pm

It can be. That number completely depends on your previous couple of miles of driving. It's also fairly useless at predicting actual achievable range. If you want to learn the true range of your car, take it for a long drive under various conditions. The thing with an EV is that it is so efficient, and yet carries so little energy on board (the Leaf's battery is roughly 2/3 of a gallon of gas, but the car gets over 100 miles on a gallon equivalent), that minor variations in conditions can have a large effect on range. In an ICEV, those variations are basically in the noise.
~Brian

EV Fleet:
2011 Torqeedo Travel 1003 electric outboard on a 22' sailboat
2012 Leaf SV (traded for Bolt)
2015 C-Max Energi (302A package)
2017 Bolt Premier

lmgbaumann
Posts: 3
Joined: Mon Nov 02, 2015 2:08 pm
Delivery Date: 30 Oct 2015
Leaf Number: 020455

Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Fri Nov 06, 2015 2:37 pm

Thank you, I will try it. I need to drive to some appointments about 45 miles from my home so I will test it out.

nj46chief
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Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:13 am
Delivery Date: 01 Jan 2012
Leaf Number: 015130

Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:12 pm

New member with very low mileage, 23,454 on a 2012 Leaf, bought new.

SOC ( from 2102 to 11/2015) 80%
Range: 45-50 until recently, then 33 - 35 miles
Range till T: 45 -55 until recently, then 35-40
Efficiency: 3.6-3.8
flat as a pancake in mid-Florida, 35-45 MPH max ( wouldn't even think about HWY) ,
weather usually hot, car stored in A/C garage
ECO always, 220 charger

SOC form 11/2015 100%
Range: 45-50
Range till T: ? 50-55
Efficiency : 3.6- 3.8
Flat and hot, 35-45 MPH max,
ECO always

Mileage just dropped drastically within the last 2 months. Shows 10 bars, and dealer said it was fine. Leaving the dealer, I got 30 miles and used 2/3 of the 72 "available". I cannot go 50 miles in this car anymore.

I tried the "Arbitration" that's offered by BBB and the Auto Manufacturers. Beware, it seems that you can only use the Free Arbitration program IF your car is still under the basic warranty of 3 years or 60/000 miles. Mine is now 4 1/2 years old, shows 10 ( 8 white) bars and gets 45 miles to a full 100% charge.

My only option now is to hope that I'm not the only one with the problem and someone starts a Class Action suit about the problem. Or use the small claims court in Florida which allows suits up to $5000, which would probably cover the battery in a couple years if cost keeps dropping.

Buying this POS car was the worst vehicle purchase I've ever made. Paid $38K worth $9K
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