philipscoggins
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Leaf Number: 022745
Location: Tullahoma, TN

Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:19 am

Level 1 doesn't supply all the power that the heater needs, so some has to come from the battery.

Level 2 would do it.
2012 Black SL, 104,100, 4y 3m, 175 gids ~ 33% capacity loss - Lost 1st bar @ 44,800 miles & 20 months of driving - 2nd @ 62,000 miles 2y6m - 3rd @ 80,000 3y6m - 4th @ 104,074 4y3m. Member of the 100 mile & 200km club

dfscott
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Joined: Mon Apr 13, 2015 7:51 am
Delivery Date: 12 Apr 2015
Leaf Number: 328211
Location: Atlanta, GA

Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:22 am

philipscoggins wrote:Level 1 doesn't supply all the power that the heater needs, so some has to come from the battery.

Level 2 would do it.


Ahh.. good to know. Time to put on a coat and turn off the timer. :)

trumpetnelson
Posts: 11
Joined: Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:16 am
Delivery Date: 26 Oct 2014

Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Sun Aug 16, 2015 12:18 pm

Only 8,000 miles on the clock so far .... a 2015 base model. Only 10 months of ownership since purchasing new. Negotiated price down. Then $7,500 from feds (what a scam), $2,500 from the Great State of Texas (unbelievable), and $3,500 from Nissan for the no interest loan (dude!).

Daily commute is 64 miles rt. Usually arrive home with 25 to 27 miles showing on the gage at the end of the day. I find the actual mileage range is very close to 80% what is displayed. Very consistent on this benchmark. Shows 100 to 112 miles when fully charged.

Drive includes about 3/4 of the mileage at 60 to 70 mph. I am not in the slow lane. Air conditioner used more than half the time.

Have only used the (very) slow charger on 120v that came in the back of the car. Have never purchased the 240v option cord, or wired the garage for it. Due to battery charged state, car is unusable for trips around town about 2 or 3 times a month on weekends. So it becomes basically a useless hunk of steel .... and I use the Subie.

Cold weather in winter (40 deg or colder here) takes away about 10 miles. Ditto for those extra fast driving days. Throttle response is always very enjoyable. I stay off of ECO mode since I don't like the idea of needing acceleration and not having it available.

Still ... a great car/toy and meets the primary mission of getting me to work (32 miles) and back each weekday. And saving gas monies - - - I figure about 8 to 10 cents per mile is staying in the bank. And the dog enjoys riding in the back.

Nelson
San Antonio, Texas

danev
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Delivery Date: 16 Aug 2015

Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Sun Aug 16, 2015 2:59 pm

I live in NW WA and I am considering replacing my Honda Fit with a used 2013-14 Leaf. I am comfortable with the range for my daily driving. However there are two trips I at least once a month that I wonder if a Leaf would be adequate without using heat (basically April thru October. What about in winter months (temps run 35-55F) especially if at night in the rain when I would be using headlights, wipers & probably some heat & window defrosting to minimize fogging.

Trip 1: 70 miles 30 on freeway at 65, 70% on 2 lane black top averaging 50 mph. I am pretty confident I could make this on a single charge but would love to hear from experienced owners

Trip 2: 90 miles 90% on freeway averaging 65 mph. Odds of making it on a single charge seem low but again would love to hear from experienced owners

Thanks!
Last edited by danev on Sun Aug 16, 2015 4:42 pm, edited 1 time in total.

epirali
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Delivery Date: 08 Oct 2013
Leaf Number: 418541
Location: Maryland

Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:09 pm

danev wrote:I live in NW WA and I am considering replacing my Honda Fit with a used 2013-14 Leaf. I am comfortable with the range for my daily driving. However there are two trips I at least once a month that I wonder if a Leaf would be adequate; especially if at night in the rain when I would be using headlights, wipers & probably some heat & window defrosting to minimize fogging in WA winter months (35-55 F).

Trip 1: 70 miles 30 freeway at 65, 70% 2 lane black top averaging 50 mph. I am pretty confident I could make this on a single charge but would love to hear from experienced owners

Trip 2: 90 miles 90% freeway averaging 65 mph. Odds of making it on a single charge seem low but again would love to hear from experienced owners

Thanks!


At temperature of 33-50 the odds are low on 1) in a single charge, and pretty much zero on 2). Headlights and wipers won't matter, but AC+heat for defogging combined with density/drag at that temperature would challenge even a brand new Leaf.

Botany500
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Joined: Wed Jul 29, 2015 8:11 am
Delivery Date: 27 Jul 2015
Leaf Number: 016967

Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:03 pm

Starting SOC : always 100%
Range (VLBW/all dashes on GoM) : 81.4mi (highest so far), 80.6mi, and 77.6mi. I have no anxiety about hitting LBW.
Range (till turtle) : I don't live that dangerously, but I assume that there is 4-5mi remaining at VLBW
Efficiency : 4.6-5.0mi/Kwh
Driving : usually about 35% highway/interstates (60-65mph) and in D mode, remaining time at slower speeds in ECO.
Climate : 75-85F, A/C on 20-30% of the time (at higher speeds)

I can rarely let my Leaf get to LBW; these 3 times are the only times ive gone from 100% to VLBW. I usually need to charge overnight and rarely drive more than 50mi/day. I use the L1 EVSE at home, and sometimes ChargePoint L2s when I'm out and about. I've used quick-charging a few times too when I need 100mi+ in range. Usually I drive like any other car; I will eventually get around to attempting 100mi on a charge. With all 12 bars and no interstates or climate control I think it could be done.

22395 miles on the odometer. Tires at 40psi. Garage parked. Spoiled rotten :)
Evie Harris aka 2012 Nissan Leaf SL (Super Black). Born in Japan, 11/11, raised in Chicagoland. 12 bars, 23,365mi.

sailordave
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Joined: Fri Sep 04, 2015 6:34 am
Delivery Date: 28 Sep 2015
Leaf Number: 018184

Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Fri Sep 04, 2015 6:46 am

I just a bought a new-to-me 2012 Leaf with 22,000 miles and love it. The battery gauge is still showing all bars for capacity, and the available range is working out perfectly for my 56 mile round-trip commute.

My experience over the first 4 days of commuting:

Starting SOC : 100% (Level 1 charge, still waiting for home based level 2)
Range (till battery low) : 3 bars left showing about 20 to 30 miles after 56 mile commute
Range (till turtle) : I won't do this!
Efficiency : 4.2 miles/Kwh
Driving : 50% of drive is stop-and-go city with speeds up to 50mph. Remaining 50% is steady 60mph (cruise control) on freeway.
Climate : 82deg (and humid) on trip to work, 90+deg (and humid) on return trip.

A/C running lightly on trip in, working very hard on return trip. I had range anxiety on my first commute, but the car is performing very consistently with 20 to 30 mile reserve when I return after driving almost exactly 56 miles. Its perfect for my circumstance.

GRA
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Location: East side of San Francisco Bay

Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Fri Sep 04, 2015 2:58 pm

sailordave wrote:I just a bought a new-to-me 2012 Leaf with 22,000 miles and love it. The battery gauge is still showing all bars for capacity, and the available range is working out perfectly for my 56 mile round-trip commute.

My experience over the first 4 days of commuting:

Starting SOC : 100% (Level 1 charge, still waiting for home based level 2)
Range (till battery low) : 3 bars left showing about 20 to 30 miles after 56 mile commute
Range (till turtle) : I won't do this!
Efficiency : 4.2 miles/Kwh
Driving : 50% of drive is stop-and-go city with speeds up to 50mph. Remaining 50% is steady 60mph (cruise control) on freeway.
Climate : 82deg (and humid) on trip to work, 90+deg (and humid) on return trip.

A/C running lightly on trip in, working very hard on return trip. I had range anxiety on my first commute, but the car is performing very consistently with 20 to 30 mile reserve when I return after driving almost exactly 56 miles. Its perfect for my circumstance.

Welcome to the forum! If you think you may be posting regularly, you might want to add your location (as general or specific as you wish) to your profile, as it helps people to answer your questions without having to ask what part of the country (or what country) you're in. You gave enough temp info in the above that we could answer any questions related to it, but that may not always be the case.
Guy [I have lots of experience designing/selling off-grid AE systems, some using EVs but don't own one. Local trips are by foot, bike and/or rapid transit].

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LeftieBiker
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Delivery Date: 31 May 2013
Location: Upstate New York, US

Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Fri Sep 04, 2015 3:01 pm

dfscott wrote:
philipscoggins wrote:Level 1 doesn't supply all the power that the heater needs, so some has to come from the battery.

Level 2 would do it.


Ahh.. good to know. Time to put on a coat and turn off the timer. :)


I charge using L-1, and in the Winter my solution is to turn on the climate control about 2-3 minutes before I use the car. That way the car is "mild" inside, and the seat and wheel are warm. This costs just about 2% of charge with the car plugged in. What is really needed is the menu option to have the car preheat in Eco mode. That would reduce the loss of charge on L-1 to something very small.
2013 "Brilliant Silver" SV with Premium Package and no QC, and 2009 Vectrix VX-1 with 18 Leaf cells.

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LeftieBiker
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Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:09 pm

I took a fairly long trip yesterday, charging to 100% first. (Equalization wasn't quite done when I unplugged, but it was nearly finished.) I set the A/C to 76F initially, but as it was hot and I was lightly dressed, I ended up with a 'comfort setting' of 79F - it was 92 to 88F outside. I used Eco mode the whole trip.The outward bound leg was mostly uphill, and I did 30 miles with 54% charge left on arrival. This didn't concern me, because I know the return trip uses much less power. I added a two mile or so detour on the way home, and arrived back with 62 miles on the odometer and 19% left on the SOC display. I had driven the last 5 miles gently, with the A/C off, to try to avoid having to charge because of it going below 20%. As it was I charged for 40 minutes or so, then unplugged the car with 21% on the gauge, to cool down before full recharging. I forgot to check average speed and hadn't reset the M/KWH display, although I estimate the latter was about 4.4 for the whole trip. I figure my current range is about 70 miles with the A/C on but set higher, and maybe 85 miles if I drive with no climate control on but also not hyper-miling. The range *seemed* less to me, but I later realized that it was because since I retired I rarely drive the car below 30% remaining SOC. This isn't bad for a 2013! I still have 12 bars, although I expect to lose one, and the odometer has about 12,300 miles on it now.
2013 "Brilliant Silver" SV with Premium Package and no QC, and 2009 Vectrix VX-1 with 18 Leaf cells.

The most offensive, tasteless phrase in use here is "Pulled the trigger." I no longer respond to posts that use it.

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