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Re: 6600+ ft. of climbing / LEAF in the San Bernardino Mount

Thu May 21, 2015 11:34 am

abasile - Thanks for the quick reply!

I will definitely try to get as much charge at the 7-11 as possible just in case. I can charge on L1 over night while I'm up there which should give me enough to do some regen on the way back down then will try to get to the free QC that I linked below if it works successful on the way up there.

Your offer is much appreciated and I will consider it for another trip but won't be needing it this time.
2015 Leaf S w/ QC
Mfg: Jan. '15 // Pur: May '15
Best: 6/27/15 - 1,416 Miles - 292 GIDs - 63.11 Ahr - 22.6 kWh - 100% SOH - 97.2% Hx - 4 QC, 29 L2
Worst: 12/12/15 - 4,616 Miles - 259 GIDs - 55.02 Ahr - 20.1 kWh - 99% SOH - 82.8% Hx - 17 QC, 96 L2

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Re: 6600+ ft. of climbing / LEAF in the San Bernardino Mount

Thu May 21, 2015 5:09 pm

Just took our 2011 LEAF down the mountain for the annual battery check. All five stars as usual, not that it means much. I guess my mountain climbing doesn't translate to exceeding Nissan's below-five-star threshold for "high power levels". (Coming back up the mountain, I was averaging ~30 kW of motor power at 40-45 mph.)

Replaced the underbody shield for $258, after a year with bungee cords holding together the old one. I'll need to be more careful on rocky dirt roads...

The driver's side window hasn't been working. It seems likely to be a motor issue. Nothing happens when I move the switch. The dealer quoted $486 if it is indeed a motor issue, or a minimum of $120 to diagnose. Not worth it.

Also, my trusty old SOC/gid meter quit working for some reason. The display doesn't light up, and I'm not inclined to try to figure out why. Will probably get the iOS version of Leaf Spy and the wifi adaptor.
2011 LEAF at 71K miles, pre-owned 2012 Tesla S 85 at 98K miles
LEAF battery: 9/12 bars and < 49 Ah (-28% vs. new)
Tesla battery: 250+ miles of range (-5% vs. new)

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Re: 6600+ ft. of climbing / LEAF in the San Bernardino Mount

Thu May 21, 2015 5:53 pm

abasile wrote:The driver's side window hasn't been working. It...Nothing happens when I move the switch. The dealer quoted $486 if it is indeed a motor issue, or a minimum of $120 to diagnose. Not worth it.
Others have determined it's often the switch that fails and posted instructions to replace if you are of mind to do so...

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Re: 6600+ ft. of climbing / LEAF in the San Bernardino Mount

Fri May 22, 2015 7:46 am

LeafMuranoDriver wrote:I could leave with 90%+ to go to a QC about 60 miles away... http://api.plugshare.com/view/location/13998 (free w/ No Charge to Charge)

Looks like somebody just posted on Plugshare last night that this location was vandalized. Bummer! There are many L2's around but was hoping to not have to hang around for a couple hours.

How do people verify chargers are active? Call the location? Call the network of the charger? Or...?
2015 Leaf S w/ QC
Mfg: Jan. '15 // Pur: May '15
Best: 6/27/15 - 1,416 Miles - 292 GIDs - 63.11 Ahr - 22.6 kWh - 100% SOH - 97.2% Hx - 4 QC, 29 L2
Worst: 12/12/15 - 4,616 Miles - 259 GIDs - 55.02 Ahr - 20.1 kWh - 99% SOH - 82.8% Hx - 17 QC, 96 L2

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Re: 6600+ ft. of climbing / LEAF in the San Bernardino Mount

Fri May 22, 2015 8:08 am

abasile wrote:J (Coming back up the mountain, I was averaging ~30 kW of motor power at 40-45 mph.)


Wonder how well the BMW i3 would climb the mountain in only Rex mode (35 HP), given your speed at
the Leaf's power (~40 HP) with additional power available for an emergency, i.e. most likely not a favorable
spot to demo the i3's Rex mode. Although the i3 is lighter than the Leaf, this would not help much in this
situation.

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Re: 6600+ ft. of climbing / LEAF in the San Bernardino Mount

Fri May 22, 2015 9:13 am

JimSouCal wrote:
abasile wrote:The driver's side window hasn't been working. It...Nothing happens when I move the switch. The dealer quoted $486 if it is indeed a motor issue, or a minimum of $120 to diagnose. Not worth it.
Others have determined it's often the switch that fails and posted instructions to replace if you are of mind to do so...

Thanks for the tip! Maybe when we start getting some warm weather (it's rainy with a high of 40 F today) I'll be motivated to try that.

lorenfb wrote:Wonder how well the BMW i3 would climb the mountain in only Rex mode (35 HP), given your speed at the Leaf's power (~40 HP) with additional power available for an emergency, i.e. most likely not a favorable spot to demo the i3's Rex mode. Although the i3 is lighter than the Leaf, this would not help much in this situation.

The i3 rex seriously needs a "mountain mode" like the Volt, to save charge for a mountain climb (or other purposes). I don't like the idea of intentionally crippling a car just so that it'll be considered by CARB as a BEV.

Climbing the mountain in the LEAF, at least I have the ability to speed up when a faster driver approaches from behind, or merge safely where the passing lanes end.
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Re: 6600+ ft. of climbing / LEAF in the San Bernardino Mount

Fri May 22, 2015 3:00 pm

LeafMuranoDriver wrote:How do people verify chargers are active? Call the location? Call the network of the charger? Or...?


Plugshare app will show the status of eVgo chargers. Available, in-use, offline, as well as a wrench if the location is awaiting a visit from maintenance.

Chargepoint app will show the status of Chargepoint chargers. Same, available, in-use, offline. I've had some false positives though, and had to push Chargepoint to change the status to offline.

Plugshare comments in general might be good to check, for things like missing cable which may trick an app into saying the charger is available but you can't actually use it.

Greenlots app I've had a lot of issues with.

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Re: 6600+ ft. of climbing / LEAF in the San Bernardino Mount

Mon May 25, 2015 1:48 pm

Another Leaf made it up the mountain! :D

I never really had range anxiety. I charged more than needed just to make sure since before this trip, I never drove more than 20 miles one way. It was very interesting to see how much battery usage moved for elevation changes.

1st Leg - Started @ 100%
Drove 52.0 miles @ 60-65mph
Remaining @ 40% Charge / 5 Bars / 52 Miles Left
QC'd for 30 Minutes to charge to 93%, went down to 89% right away. I have free EVgo charging so I thought why not try the L2 for a little while since I never used an EVgo L2. Moved over and plugged in for 10 minutes to 93% charge.

2nd Leg - Started @ 93%
Drove 54.5 miles @ 60-65mph
Remaining @ 28% Charge / 4 Bars / 32 Miles Left
L2 charged for 2 hours to 90%

3rd Leg - Started @ 90%
Drove 21.2 miles @ 40-45mph up the mountain then going into the mountain went 30-35mph
Remaining @ 37% Charge / 5 Bars / 29 Miles Left

Trip Home

1st Leg - Started @ 100% - Drove ~5 miles to the highway to 90% then down the mountain, ended @ 95%.
Drove 69.5 miles @ 50-60mph down the mountain then 60-65mph on the freeway
Remaining @ 43% Charge / 5 Bars / 48 Miles Left
L2 charged for 2.25 hours to charge to 100% @ The LA County Arboretum and Botanic Garden. What a great place to take a rest and charge. Been here a year or 2 ago and it's so peaceful and enjoyable to walk around the grounds. Was lucky to snag the 3rd and final charger available.

2nd Leg - Started @ 100%
Drove 50.0 miles @ 60-70mph
Remaining @ 36% Charge / 5 Bars / 39 Miles Left



What's the best way to track the elevation changes?



Here's a few pics from the trip...

Charging at Fresh & Easy EVgo in Irwindale - Great charging spot. It was 10 miles out of the way unfortunately but it worked out well.

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Charging at 7/11 in San Bernadino - Not the best charging spot. The QC is down and the L2 looked to be still crooked but usable. I guess it's free? I slid my credit card a couple times but I don't think it did anything.

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Leaf @ Rim of the World, just under 5,000 feet.

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Overall, a much longer than usual trip with EV (5.5 hours) vs. ICE (1.5-2 hours) but I charged for free everywhere I went and saved at least $50 in gas. If I do it again, now I'll know I can either driver faster and/or charge less at stops. Or if more QC's become available, it wouldn't be so bad.

Thanks again to abasile and the others for the info!
2015 Leaf S w/ QC
Mfg: Jan. '15 // Pur: May '15
Best: 6/27/15 - 1,416 Miles - 292 GIDs - 63.11 Ahr - 22.6 kWh - 100% SOH - 97.2% Hx - 4 QC, 29 L2
Worst: 12/12/15 - 4,616 Miles - 259 GIDs - 55.02 Ahr - 20.1 kWh - 99% SOH - 82.8% Hx - 17 QC, 96 L2

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Re: 6600+ ft. of climbing / LEAF in the San Bernardino Mount

Mon May 25, 2015 5:38 pm

LeafMuranoDriver wrote:...Trip Home

1st Leg - Started @ 100% - Drove ~5 miles to the highway to 90% then down the mountain, ended @ 95%...
Why did you start with such a high SOC before going down that mountain? You would have had a lot more help from regen braking if you had started at 70% or less.
What's the best way to track the elevation changes?
I use GPS Visualizer. GRA describes how to use it here:
GRA wrote:Here's the one I use. Map the route in Google maps, then click on the link button (upper left, next to the print icon button). When that box opens, I click on Short URL, then copy that and open http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/. Click on Profiles (elevation etc.), choose your units (Metric/US/Nautical) and then paste the URL into the box (2nd from bottom, right) labeled "Or provide the URL of data on the Web", and click on the button below labeled "Draw the Profile".

An example profile using this technique:

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Re: 6600+ ft. of climbing / LEAF in the San Bernardino Mount

Tue May 26, 2015 8:07 am

dgpcolorado wrote:
LeafMuranoDriver wrote:...Trip Home

1st Leg - Started @ 100% - Drove ~5 miles to the highway to 90% then down the mountain, ended @ 95%...
Why did you start with such a high SOC before going down that mountain? You would have had a lot more help from regen braking if you had started at 70% or less.
What's the best way to track the elevation changes?
I use GPS Visualizer. GRA describes how to use it here:
GRA wrote:Here's the one I use. Map the route in Google maps, then click on the link button (upper left, next to the print icon button). When that box opens, I click on Short URL, then copy that and open http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/. Click on Profiles (elevation etc.), choose your units (Metric/US/Nautical) and then paste the URL into the box (2nd from bottom, right) labeled "Or provide the URL of data on the Web", and click on the button below labeled "Draw the Profile".

An example profile using this technique:

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I left the L1 charger on all night and came out to it at 100% in the morning. I wasn't going to wake up in the middle of the night to check it and unplug. I thought why not get as close to 100% at the bottom of the mountain as possible.

Would I have gotten to the bottom of the mountain with 95% if I started at 70 or 80%?

Thanks for the info! Much appreciated!
2015 Leaf S w/ QC
Mfg: Jan. '15 // Pur: May '15
Best: 6/27/15 - 1,416 Miles - 292 GIDs - 63.11 Ahr - 22.6 kWh - 100% SOH - 97.2% Hx - 4 QC, 29 L2
Worst: 12/12/15 - 4,616 Miles - 259 GIDs - 55.02 Ahr - 20.1 kWh - 99% SOH - 82.8% Hx - 17 QC, 96 L2

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