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Sondy132001
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Re: Lose the "Building Trees" on the head's up display

Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:55 am

knightarmor wrote:Who knew little tree animations could annoy so many?

I don't mind the trees. They tell me if I spent way too much time stuck in traffic on my way home from work!!

Two trees= got home quickly and without too much traffic
Three trees and a stump= too much time stuck in traffic!!!

Nissan needs to work on getting us 300 miles of range. If they get us that I could care less if the trees are there or not.



Two trees ?? how far are you from work and how fast do you drive ? What State/City are you in ?

I'm off the 405 in Orange County, and I am lucky to get a full tree with no traffic driving home. And when I was stuck in traffic, lucky if I got a 2nd tree haha My power gets sucked up, Gary told me to slow down, but in the carpool lane if you do less than 65mph, you'd be driven off the road, people fly in there.
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knightarmor
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Re: Lose the "Building Trees" on the head's up display

Fri Jul 31, 2015 3:49 pm

I commute 34 miles each way. Lots of traffic lights. In Seattle so there are hills. The longest stretch with a chance of no traffic lights or stop signs is 16 miles with a 55mph speed limit. Typically hitting speeds up to 65mph.

Levenkay
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Re: Lose the "Building Trees" on the head's up display

Fri Jul 31, 2015 9:53 pm

I don't mind the trees display, either, but it isn't really all that useful because a lot of the things that affect the efficiency of the car's operation are inherent in the route being driven (hills, prevailing traffic speed, temperature, wind, etc), rather than any skill of the driver. If it's supposed to help train/encourage you to optimize your driving efficiency, it would be nice if its display could somehow be made relative to the car's current conditions. One possible way might be to access the massive database that gets built by all the LEAFs whose owners grant permission for Nissan to data-log, so that the little efficiency game could rate your current perfomance (miles/KWh, most likely) against the average of other drivers who've taken that same route.

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Re: Lose the "Building Trees" on the head's up display

Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:27 pm

And why does the ECO indicator drop to about half when I engage the cruise control? This makes no sense. Cruise control is supposed to be more efficient in maintaining an even speed than my right foot.

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Re: Lose the "Building Trees" on the head's up display

Sat Feb 27, 2016 12:38 am

Zukidrvr wrote:And why does the ECO indicator drop to about half when I engage the cruise control? This makes no sense. Cruise control is supposed to be more efficient in maintaining an even speed than my right foot.


Cruise control is more efficient than a lead-footed driver, but less efficient - by quite a bit - than a driver using hyper-miling techniques (or the less extreme techniques that I call "Super-Miling"). The big advantage of cruise control is it can relieve driver fatigue a bit, while eliminating inadvertent speeding, and it's also very helpful for people like me who have foot pain.
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Re: Lose the "Building Trees" on the head's up display

Sat Feb 27, 2016 7:13 am

Cruise control is very efficient only on roads without any elevation change.
Exactly the opposite with ups and downs.
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Re: Lose the "Building Trees" on the head's up display

Mon Feb 29, 2016 10:28 am

Zukidrvr wrote:And why does the ECO indicator drop to about half when I engage the cruise control? This makes no sense. Cruise control is supposed to be more efficient in maintaining an even speed than my right foot.


I found that if you enable cruise control, you are not using "ECO" mode anymore. I toggled between eco versus cruise and it shows the same numbers.

As for me, cruise control is perfect for me since its flat all the way for my traveling except that a hill over the freeway.
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Re: Lose the "Building Trees" on the head's up display

Thu Apr 13, 2017 2:39 pm

I realize that many Leaf owners have some inflated sense of importance that they are involved in some great environmental cause saving the world, but the vast majority of people (like myself) view that as bunk. The more the Leaf can divorce itself from this environmental mindset (symbolized by the Leaf and Tree icons) the more it will appeal to the vast majority of people who are more interested in reliable economic vehicle and not some overly subsidized environmental project that is doomed to failure.


I'm not really offended but some people may be so just off the cuff:

I have spent 8-1/2 years of my life supporting global climate change research as an ice core driller. I have read the papers and GCC is a reality. Furthermore we now have the smoking gun that it is caused by human activity. You don't have to take my word for it. Just google EPICA and see the data for yourself.

As for zero emissions I recognize it actually means zero emissions here. The electricity is probably being generated in a coal fired or natural gas generator. Also, how many barrels of oil does it take to build a leaf? I have no idea, but the Leaf does not have a zero carbon footprint. So even if we do get a bit big headed about it it is not the solution. Only part of it.

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Re: Lose the "Building Trees" on the head's up display

Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:29 am

I thought the tree building display was beyond silly. Still, I am just learning to use this car and it's unique features. But as far as making some huge eco improvement, I saw a film taken around a southeast asian battery manufacturing plant. I did not feel very eco friendly after that. But, if fuel costs go up, this might be a nice offset to the volatile price changes we see in the cost of gasoline . Sure power companies get increases, but not on a day to day basis. And while I cannot make my own gasoline, I can build a solar, wind, or hydro power generation system if I choose. Of course I am not foolish enough to think as of 4/2017 this is economically practical, but it can be done giving a person some independence from the big power corporations and possibly some personal satisfaction.

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Re: Lose the "Building Trees" on the head's up display

Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:29 pm

I don't pay lots of attention to the tree thing but I seem to recall at least three trees and another one almost built by the time we pulled into the fast charger last week in Salmon Arm after our Sunday drive last Sunday. The GOM and the kilometers travelled added up to over 220. Something like 162 traveled and 63 to go. A lot of slow weindy country roads, a lot at 60 KMH. I couldn't and can't believe how little power the car uses when hanging around 60 KMH. Wow. Very relaxed four hour outing including a great lunch in Salmon Arm "De, Mills Farmers Market"
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