ballbeam
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Re: Ability to stop charging on 2014 to avoid 100%

Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:06 pm

I think I have the solution to your problem. I just started doing this a couple of days ago and it works great.

When setting up your charge timer, turn it on, set it to 80%, enable it for all days in the week and set the start/end-time to 00:00 and 00:00.

What this means in practice is that the "timer" is on at all times :lol: and whenever you want to charge it to a 100%, you just turn the timer off.
Also, to confirm that the timer actually starts charging the car immediately, listen for a second beep after putting the charge cable in. So - put the cable in *beep beep*, 2 seconds later, *beep beep* - and it's charging. You can also look at the dash lights.

I have a 2015 european Leaf so my menu system might look different from yours (although probably not).

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Re: Ability to stop charging on 2014 to avoid 100%

Sun Aug 16, 2015 2:39 am

^^^
Yes, I know about the above via viewtopic.php?p=336053#p336053. People discovered that long ago.

Only problem is that AFAIK, on '14+ US Leafs, charging to 80% was removed completely, including the timer screens.

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achewt
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Re: Ability to stop charging on 2014 to avoid 100%

Wed Sep 09, 2015 4:56 pm

I have a 2014 and while you can set the beginning and end time, you cannot set it to stop at 80%. I'm sure this would be an easy firmware fix on Nissan's part, given that the 2013's had it, and apparently the 2015 euro spec do as well. Not holding my breath though :(
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Re: Ability to stop charging on 2014 to avoid 100%

Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:18 am

achewt wrote:I have a 2014 and while you can set the beginning and end time, you cannot set it to stop at 80%. I'm sure this would be an easy firmware fix on Nissan's part, given that the 2013's had it, and apparently the 2015 euro spec do as well. Not holding my breath though :(


AFAIK, the "fix" Nissan implemented was to remove the option. That way, they can claim 84 miles on the window sticker instead of 75.

IMHO, the right thing to do here is to fix the EPA rules so that the sticker lists the car's range on the full/max charge. Anyone in their right mind should be able to figure out that a lower charge setting will give them a lower range. But now we're talking a rule change and all the red tape that goes along with it.
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Re: Ability to stop charging on 2014 to avoid 100%

Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:41 pm

so how does one contact the EPA and petition them for a change?

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Re: Ability to stop charging on 2014 to avoid 100%

Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:27 pm

It would be great if Nissan added a feature to stop charging at whatever exact % you want. One day you may only want 50% but the next you want 80% or 90%. Then turn the feature off and it goes to 100%.

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cwerdna
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Re: Ability to stop charging on 2014 to avoid 100%

Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:39 pm

LeafMuranoDriver wrote:It would be great if Nissan added a feature to stop charging at whatever exact % you want. One day you may only want 50% but the next you want 80% or 90%. Then turn the feature off and it goes to 100%.

Dreaming...

It was a feature request from the audience of the Phoenix meeting in Jan 2013 at viewtopic.php?t=9694. It was at some point during the Q&A.

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cwerdna
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Re: Ability to stop charging on 2014 to avoid 100%

Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:40 pm

LeafMuranoDriver wrote:It would be great if Nissan added a feature to stop charging at whatever exact % you want. One day you may only want 50% but the next you want 80% or 90%. Then turn the feature off and it goes to 100%.

Dreaming...

It was a feature request from the audience of the Phoenix meeting in Jan 2013 at viewtopic.php?t=9694. It was at some point during the Q&A.

I believe the Model S has had such a control/slider for ages yet they didn't get bit by the 80%/100% "rule", AFAIK.

Yes, I would LOVE this feature, as well.

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Re: Ability to stop charging on 2014 to avoid 100%

Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:14 am

I think this whole thread is ridiculous... Why are we buying a product and (for fear of using it up too soon) trying to "protect the battery" . Basically, what we are saying that it is ok for Nissan to report charging ranges, that if the consumer follows them, will damage the car. Why should we be doing Nissan's job to protect the battery, and then accepting only a functional range of what amounts to 60 miles. Nissan should have set the maximum charge of 80% (and CALL THAT 100%), and reported the true range of 60%... Either that or we should just charge to 100% and F#$%^ Nissan, and get a new battery if it fails due to this!!! I am sorry but it gets me angry to see so many Leaf drivers try to work around this problem....

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Re: Ability to stop charging on 2014 to avoid 100%

Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:32 am

Yeah it is all pretty silly when you step back and view it from that perspective. Having said that, I've continued to charge to 100% every morning (timer set to finish right as I leave) and my capacity has only dropped 5% over 18 months and 62,000 km. Whatever they did for the 2014s (2013s?) obviously has helped over the 2011/2012s so it isn't as much of an issue with respect to degradation.

However, I still wish I had the feature for my originally posted reason (often charging in a mountain town then descending 2,000ft+). It would also be convenient for weekends when I don't want to charge the car full and leave it sitting there for days.
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