arnis
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Re: Hack to get rid of low speed creep

Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:53 am

Again, due to "fast way of living" I would not like shifter be anywhere away from my hands.
So either Tesla/Mercedes style stalk near steering wheel or right next to handrest.

I also do not use P if I'm going to switch it off anyway. Absolutely pointless :)

It's true that it wastes some space. But I would rather go with BMW approach and add some
VALUABLE functionality. Twisting shifter clockwise/counterclockwise should change regen.
ECO button should be next to the stalk not on the steering wheel. Seat heaters should be
near the stalk not cupholders. Same with steering wheel heater button.
And I would put the START button very close to my hand as well.
Those buttons are ALWAYS USED - regen, ECO, START, D/R/P-selector, heating (if equipped),
parking sensors/camera (if equipped)- no reason to hide them in different corners.
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Re: Hack to get rid of low speed creep

Sun Dec 11, 2016 2:02 pm

This is what i don't get about these companies. Nissan is a US $130bil company (15,000 bil yen) , their profit in 2015 was US $8bil. Alll we want is another menu option that allows us to:
a) turn on/off creep
b) set default drive mode either D or ECO
c) set the regeneration value

Piss poor if the computer is too limited to accommodate this sort or program, and should cost about US $100k for a programmer to implement (or less depending on how hard the system is to program).
This is why Tesla is kicking these manufacturers butts, they understand their emerging market and they are not afraid to respond to their customers wants. Nissan could make a miniscule investment in firmware upgrade and all their savvy customers will be freaky impressed, but instead they have a vehicle that is getting older and feels like it has no love at all, alienating their most ardent supporters in the process.
Nissan, and all brands, will always have someone who will purchase their products, but the companies who get this sort of easy changes to their products will excel.

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Re: Hack to get rid of low speed creep

Sun Dec 11, 2016 2:08 pm

Alll we want is another menu option that allows us to:
a) turn on/off creep
b) set default drive mode either D or ECO
c) set the regeneration value


No, that is all that you want. Others find things like adjustable charge limits more important.
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Re: Hack to get rid of low speed creep

Sun Dec 11, 2016 2:40 pm

Japanese companies are conservative and Tesla is at the other end of the spectrum. In addition, things that change the regen or other driver functions are often considered a liability. Tesla is clearly not liability adverse. Each feature that requires a computer change like timers etc takes man hours and cost and in a car that sells in low volume they are sticking to the bare essentials to cut cost and speed development. These are all factors that are very LEAF specific and the reasons go on and on.

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Re: Hack to get rid of low speed creep

Sun Dec 11, 2016 3:45 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
Alll we want is another menu option that allows us to:
a) turn on/off creep
b) set default drive mode either D or ECO
c) set the regeneration value


No, that is all that you want. Others find things like adjustable charge limits more important.

Personally I'd like b and c, a doesn't really matter to me, I'd also like adjustable charge limits(probably next after B and C. I do agree with JCPanosh though, these are small things and would be relatively easy to implement, they could even be somewhat hidden in a menu so the average Joe that doesn't know what they mean would not mess things up. None of the things mentioned are safety or liability related so other than just not figuring people would want such a feature, I can't see why Nissan couldn't easily add such customizable features......if they cared.
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Re: Hack to get rid of low speed creep

Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:07 am

bitmanEV wrote:another point is why on earth do i need to put the switch to the back for going forwards and forward going backwards. BMW with their i3 doing it right! push it forward for going forwards and backward for going backwards. why did Nissan copy the stupid automatic gear lever position while creating their new and first electric vehicle :evil:

one day i might just hack the switch and reverse it ;)



+100. Forward to go forward, back to go back. I have already had one high stress situation where I was turning around on a narrow road and needed to make a 3 point turn. Grabbed shifter and pulled back.. Ooops. Luckily nobody was hurt and I avoided the curb.

brotherjethro
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Re: Hack to get rid of low speed creep

Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:11 pm

Leafchacho wrote:
bitmanEV wrote:another point is why on earth do i need to put the switch to the back for going forwards and forward going backwards. BMW with their i3 doing it right! push it forward for going forwards and backward for going backwards. why did Nissan copy the stupid automatic gear lever position while creating their new and first electric vehicle :evil:

one day i might just hack the switch and reverse it ;)



+100. Forward to go forward, back to go back. I have already had one high stress situation where I was turning around on a narrow road and needed to make a 3 point turn. Grabbed shifter and pulled back.. Ooops. Luckily nobody was hurt and I avoided the curb.


I actually like the "forward to go backwards", "backwards to go forwards" thing. When I think about it outside of the car, it seems wrong, but when I'm driving, it totally makes sense. I think there are two reasons for this: (1) Automatics usually arrange the gears "PRNDL", so if you have a non-column shift automatic, you're already used to this, and (2) I've driven plenty of stick shifts where reverse was left-front and first was left-back.

But none of this matters, because anyone who isn't a savage knows that all automatics should have a column-shift. :D

And of course the "three on the tree" is the ultimate way to shift a manual, if only because every time you shift from first to second it looks like you're flipping off the drivers in front of you! (I'm talking about you, 1968 Bronco!)
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Re: Hack to get rid of low speed creep

Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:38 am

we are becoming a society of people obsessed with requiring endless customization and personalization. Just because YOU think that a product needs a modification does not mean that anyone else would even think of it... Or care.

I would like a car that serves me cherry cheesecake in the morning. I don't think Nissan will oblige.

I have seen how Tesla has catered to techno-crats (to put it nicely), with "all systems" controlled and customized by the giant video screen. They can keep it, as I will NEVER own a Tesla for many reasons. If you really like customized.... That is your car!!!

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Re: Hack to get rid of low speed creep

Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:05 pm

I guess I'm a creep lover. For 4 years I drove a Porsche 914 that I converted with an Azure Dynamics system and wished I had creep! What I hated was the VSP. Fortunately, someone quickly solved that flaw. I fixed my VSP to silence except when I care to hear it. I built a parallel system to sound like a steam engine. I've tweaked all the annoyances. I've got better speakers, louder horns, brighter fogs, a 2" hitch, an all-voltage charging cable, a four roof grab handle, modified graphics, and factory original creep. I too plan to drive the little fella ten years or more.
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Re: Hack to get rid of low speed creep

Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:30 pm

ceejones wrote:I guess I'm a creep lover. For 4 years I drove a Porsche 914 that I converted with an Azure Dynamics system and wished I had creep! What I hated was the VSP. Fortunately, someone quickly solved that flaw. I fixed my VSP to silence except when I care to hear it. I built a parallel system to sound like a steam engine. I've tweaked all the annoyances. I've got better speakers, louder horns, brighter fogs, a 2" hitch, an all-voltage charging cable, a four roof grab handle, modified graphics, and factory original creep. I too plan to drive the little fella ten years or more.


Now I simply must know about this steam engine sound thing...

Details?
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