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Crime novelist question

Mon Jul 18, 2016 3:26 pm

I write crime novels. I want the main character to figure out something important by using the stored GPS tracking data. My handheld GPSr and my Nuvi both have a tracking option and I know how to retrieve the data from those, but only if tracking is turned on. I've read through my 2011 Leaf manual navigation section and I see how to store destinations and routes and retrieve them, but I don't see a tracking option either to set it or to retrieve it. Does anyone know if the Leaf's nav stores where the car has been (other that saved destinations/routes)? Maybe on later models? My character doesn't have to drive a Leaf in particular or other NIssan. If this option is not on Leafs or other Nissan cars, does anyone know which makes/models do have that kind of tracking ability?
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Re: Crime novelist question

Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:09 pm

You can turn location history on, on Android phones.
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Re: Crime novelist question

Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:19 pm

The only thing I can think of is when the car automatically saves the location if you plug into a level 2 EVSE. I don't know if they log a time though. Maybe you could combine it with data from a charging network or use the pings from the cars data connection on cell phone towers.
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Re: Crime novelist question

Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:48 pm

Other ways to track locations that many don't realize
Google Plus locations of friends
Fitbit activities will record locations and the path
Cameras.. most cameras save the GPS location and time of where a picture is taken in the EXIF data. . Given several pictures, you can create the path.

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Re: Crime novelist question

Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:49 pm

Or you could do like most fiction writers and provide the car with more capabilities than it has. The general public will believe it as long as it sounds plausible.

One idea would be those cars that advertise now as being mobile hotspots. A 'detective' could trace the path by reviewing the car's router log to see which cellular tower it hit and when. Whether the car's system retains such a log would be such obscure knowledge, it will be easily swallowed. And figure a good number of people have heard of browser history being a dangerous record of one's activity and that their computer automatically stores it without their interaction. It is an easy leap from there to the idea that the car's browser also stores such a log and the log could even have a GPS and time stamp for certain events if the 'detective' needs that level of specificity. In such a scenario, the stamp could be placed in the log whenever the car reaches out to the Internet to update the real time traffic maps.
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Re: Crime novelist question

Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:48 am

All very good suggestions. Thank you, fellow Leafers.
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Re: Crime novelist question

Tue Jul 19, 2016 5:55 pm

I saw an option on my 2016 LEAF to automatically record charging spots. It was not turned on by default. In addition, I could further enable it to include L1 trickle charging spots. The minimum duration of being plugged in to be considered a charging spot was 5 minutes, and this too is adjustable.

The BMW i3 I enjoyed an extended test-drive also would (by default) save charging spot locations. The test-drive vehicle had a long list of locations previous drivers had charged the vehicle at, which were mostly L1 charges at private homes. Even if you erased previous destinations in the GPS, it still kept the charging spots on a separate list, which provided its own delete all function. Being the computer geek that I am, of course I found every such "history" list I could and erased them before turning the car back in. As I recall there were a handful of such lists of locations and phone numbers dialed. It had even downloaded my recent calls list from my phone (as does the LEAF, I believe).

Any car with a cellular radio for telematics, should, in theory, be traceable via search warrant to the respective wireless provider. Logs of check-ins to cell towers would provide quite a comprehensive history for any particular ESN, just like those for any cell phone moving about.

Final thought - computerized license plate readers are being deployed for automatic toll lane revenue collection. Seems like that is a huge trove of data.
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Re: Crime novelist question

Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:11 pm

When is next book coming out?
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Re: Crime novelist question

Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:12 pm

Yes, LeafSpy records lat and long elevation and speed once a minute if logging is turned on.

Date/Time Lat Long Elv Speed
6/30/2016 19:25 45 45.0831 -122 28.01517 374 0
6/30/2016 19:26 45 45.0831 -122 28.01517 374 0
6/30/2016 19:27 45 45.0831 -122 28.01517 374 0
6/30/2016 19:28 45 45.0831 -122 28.01517 374 0
6/30/2016 19:29 45 45.0831 -122 28.01517 374 0
6/30/2016 19:30 45 45.0831 -122 28.01517 374 0
6/30/2016 19:31 45 45.0831 -122 28.01517 374 0
6/30/2016 19:32 45 45.0831 -122 28.01517 374 0
6/30/2016 19:34 45 45.0831 -122 28.01517 374 0
6/30/2016 19:35 45 45.0831 -122 28.01517 374 0
6/30/2016 19:36 45 45.0831 -122 28.01517 374 0
6/30/2016 19:37 45 45.0831 -122 28.01517 374 0
6/30/2016 19:38 45 45.0831 -122 28.01517 374 0
6/30/2016 19:39 45 45.0831 -122 28.01517 374 0
6/30/2016 19:40 45 45.0831 -122 28.01517 374 0
6/30/2016 19:41 45 45.0831 -122 28.01517 374 0
6/30/2016 19:42 45 45.0831 -122 28.01517 374 0
6/30/2016 19:43 45 45.0831 -122 28.01517 374 0
6/30/2016 19:44 45 45.0831 -122 28.01517 374 0
6/30/2016 19:45 45 45.0831 -122 28.01517 374 0

It puts this into dropbox in a excel compatable file if dropbox is turned on.

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Re: Crime novelist question

Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:26 pm

Danl wrote:Yes, LeafSpy records lat and long elevation and speed once a minute if logging is turned on.
It puts this into dropbox in a excel compatable file if dropbox is turned on.

This looks good. I'm not familiar with LeafSpy. Is that hardware device that plugs into the port under the dash?
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