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Re: Using the Leaf for power in a Blackout: MY "Leaf to Home

Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:21 pm

sdmacuser wrote:I like what you have done here but am also considering something a bit larger like a Leaf to Home system as soon as they become available in the US and Europe.

Problem is they are not yet available outside of Japan (not sure why exactly short of politics) and who knows when they will be?

So how do I order one of these Leaf to Home systems if I wished to purchase one short of living in Japan to place my $4000 dollar order?

And yes I'm certain these systems will be much money than $4000 for those of us who don't happen to reside in Japan. I'm guessing at least 3 times as much and maybe even more.


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I considered building a true "leaf to home" system.
But the costs out-weigh the benefits in my opinion.
With the leaf to home, you directly tap the traction HV pack.
But then you have to convert the HV DC to usable AC anyway, which will cause loss.
The more current you allow (use), the less time you get from the pack.
I want something that can run a fridge or a small appliance for as long as possible.

I have had the most fun with this supplying power for people in weird situations.
The Leaf to home that I saw was anything BUT portable.
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Re: Using the Leaf for power in a Blackout: MY "Leaf to Home

Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:53 am

The 2013 doesn't seem to have that little ledge that the negative lead from the inverter is bolted to in the pic.
Would the location I have marked in this picture work? There is a little metal plate bolted to the block that supports a wire.

wups, thought i could upload the image.


Alrighty, well, for the meantime, can someone tell me how many watts the DC cig lighter port under the climate controls can handle? I've got a 300 watt inverter I was just going to plug into there for the meantime.

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Re: Using the Leaf for power in a Blackout: MY "Leaf to Home

Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:33 am

10 amps at 12 volts, IIRC, which is 120 watts.
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Re: Using the Leaf for power in a Blackout: MY "Leaf to Home

Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:33 am

LeftieBiker wrote:10 amps at 12 volts, IIRC, which is 120 watts.


Thanks for that.

The 100 watt inverter I have is modified sine.
The pure sine wave inverter I have is 300w.
I have only seen a post suggesting that a pure sine wave inverter can be used.
What will happen if I use the 300w and the load draws 150watts?
Or will the modified sine inverter be fine?
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Re: Using the Leaf for power in a Blackout: MY "Leaf to Home

Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:55 pm

sdmacuser wrote:exactly what is the parts list for this to be able to charge your appliances in the home? Procedure for set also please.


TIA


Emergency power systems like this are now sold as kits. viewtopic.php?f=9&t=17189 I would eventually like to see it as a 120V outlet mounted to the car as an OEM option.
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Re: Using the Leaf for power in a Blackout: MY "Leaf to Home

Tue Jul 08, 2014 1:39 pm

What will happen if I use the 300w and the load draws 150watts?


The problem isn't the 300 watt inverter: just limit the load to <120 watts and you'll be fine. 150 watts, unless *very* transient, would blow the accessory fuse.
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Re: Using the Leaf for power in a Blackout: MY "Leaf to Home

Sat Aug 09, 2014 3:08 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
What will happen if I use the 300w and the load draws 150watts?


The problem isn't the 300 watt inverter: just limit the load to <120 watts and you'll be fine. 150 watts, unless *very* transient, would blow the accessory fuse.


Thanks.

I've been keeping the load just under 100 watts and everything works real nice.
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Re: Using the Leaf for power in a Blackout: MY "Leaf to Home

Tue Feb 03, 2015 4:39 am

How long are the cables shown in the pictures? Trying to replicate the original setup.

KillaWhat wrote:This is MY answer to the thread "What became of the "LEAF TO HOME" Power the house
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Re: Using the Leaf for power in a Blackout: MY "Leaf to Home

Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:22 am

This is a better shot to see the cables (Pre Brusa :D )

I hope it helps.

I also have an "extension" cable to place the inverter inside the car if needed, but have not had to use it in real life so far.

This setup continues to be really useful in "remote" situations.

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Re: Using the Leaf for power in a Blackout: MY "Leaf to Home

Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:36 pm

It looks really cool KillaWatt. Great job.

I'm going to try to duplicate this for my Leaf. Can I buy the mounting bracket somewhere? If not, what would you recommend as a close enough alternative?

Thanks much for sharing your work.. its a piece of art :D

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