bzalex
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Re: 6.6 kw charger on 2013 S model.

Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:33 am

The old one was 292C0-3NF9A, the new one is 292C0-3NF3C. I bought it from ebay from Nort Carolina US with 400$. The seller advertise it as 292C0-3NF3B but is 3C. It seems it has more in stoc because the item is still for sale.
Unfortunately shipping to East Europe was very expensive(300-400$), so I've asked a relative who lives in US to buy it and ship it by sea. I had to wait about 3 months until it finally arrived.

bzalex
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Re: 6.6 kw charger on 2013 S model.

Tue Jun 13, 2017 11:33 pm

2 weeks update: I did with the new charger more than 600km and about 10 charging, with no issues.

Some more details and some advices if sombody is trying to do the swap:

No reprogramming or other software setting are need. I had LeafSpy in the case I need to delete some errors, but it wasn't necessary. After the swap, the 6KW option is automatically displayed.

The swap itself probably took 2 hours from the moment I've started to remove the screws of the charger.
The difficult parts are removing some of the screws which connect the charger with the rest of the motor, because of the small space around them, removing the screws of the electrical connection between the charger and motor(no direct visibility) and of course removing the top cover because it is glued. For the cover it was hard until I found a tool and a position to properly force it without damaging anything. Then, when it started to move a little bit, it was easy to insert a screwdriver in the gap.
Then I have some issues removing the rubber water pipes because of the metal elastic ring which keeps them tight and finding a cap for them.

Before removing the 12V battery, wait 5 minutes so the computers will stop. At least that says in the Service manual, otherwise it might generate some errors on computers. After you remove the 12V you can't open your trunk anymore, so take out everything you need.

I lost a lot of time with the screws around the windshield. A couple of them were hard to unscrew and screw them back. The space is tight and you have to take care to not break the glass.

Please don't touch any electrical components on the boards because an electrostatic discharge might destroy them. Also don't touch the contact area of high power connectors. They have to make a very good contact with each other for the high power they transfer. Before I've removed the screws for the power connectors, I tried to estimate the maximum force at they were screwed. I don't know how sensitive they are if too much screwing force is applied.

The puzzling part was removing the high voltage switch. It is plastic and I was afraid it will brake.

Also when manipulating the new charger, pay attention to not put the weight of it on the cooling water pipe. It is glued or something. Mine bent and loosened, so I had to glue it to have no leaks.

And of course this is my experience with the swap. There is a risk involved, so be prepared.

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Re: 6.6 kw charger on 2013 S model.

Sat Aug 26, 2017 9:48 am

bzalex wrote:2 weeks update: I did with the new charger more than 600km and about 10 charging, with no issues.

Some more details and some advices if sombody is trying to do the swap:

No reprogramming or other software setting are need. I had LeafSpy in the case I need to delete some errors, but it wasn't necessary. After the swap, the 6KW option is automatically displayed.

The swap itself probably took 2 hours from the moment I've started to remove the screws of the charger.
The difficult parts are removing some of the screws which connect the charger with the rest of the motor, because of the small space around them, removing the screws of the electrical connection between the charger and motor(no direct visibility) and of course removing the top cover because it is glued. For the cover it was hard until I found a tool and a position to properly force it without damaging anything. Then, when it started to move a little bit, it was easy to insert a screwdriver in the gap.
Then I have some issues removing the rubber water pipes because of the metal elastic ring which keeps them tight and finding a cap for them.

Before removing the 12V battery, wait 5 minutes so the computers will stop. At least that says in the Service manual, otherwise it might generate some errors on computers. After you remove the 12V you can't open your trunk anymore, so take out everything you need.

I lost a lot of time with the screws around the windshield. A couple of them were hard to unscrew and screw them back. The space is tight and you have to take care to not break the glass.

Please don't touch any electrical components on the boards because an electrostatic discharge might destroy them. Also don't touch the contact area of high power connectors. They have to make a very good contact with each other for the high power they transfer. Before I've removed the screws for the power connectors, I tried to estimate the maximum force at they were screwed. I don't know how sensitive they are if too much screwing force is applied.

The puzzling part was removing the high voltage switch. It is plastic and I was afraid it will brake.

Also when manipulating the new charger, pay attention to not put the weight of it on the cooling water pipe. It is glued or something. Mine bent and loosened, so I had to glue it to have no leaks.

And of course this is my experience with the swap. There is a risk involved, so be prepared.


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elliott2705
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Re: 6.6 kw charger on 2013 S model.

Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:36 am

Does anyone know if the chargers are the same throughout the world? I'm looking to import a 292C03NF3B from the USA to Nz to install on a Japanese import 2014. Also have there been any canbus difficulties or differences when doing this swap?

Thanks for your help all!

gugusse
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Re: 6.6 kw charger on 2013 S model.

Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:48 am

The canbus seems to be the same. The only thing is you will need leafspy pro for resetting DTC.
A 292C0-3NF3B should be compatible with any charger listed on the second page, with a car made before (mid?) 2015.

I saw that UK part number are different in the opposite of right-hand drive cars even for motors parts... A bit weird.

If you think about buying it from ebay, let me know if it works because the seller doesn't answer any question (automatic absence answer).

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Re: 6.6 kw charger on 2013 S model.

Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:48 am

TimLee wrote:
powersurge wrote:I believe that we are talking about a possible danger in plugging the evse into the car BEFORE the evse is plugged into the 120v a/c outlet??? I don't think that it really matters...

It matters if the LEAF is set to start charging immediately as the 120V plug will arc pretty bad when plugged in.

Didn't matter in your case as timer was off.

And I agree with QueenBee that portable 120V has same concern as hard wired 120V connection on the LEAF.

The key to safety in both cases is doing things in the right sequence.

It still doesn't matter as the EVSE has to initialize and put out the pilot signal before the car can open the contactors. It takes a couple of seconds for that to occur.

Unplugging is a problem, plugging in is not.
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elliott2705
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Re: 6.6 kw charger on 2013 S model.

Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:02 am

I didn't realise there was potentially a difference between lhd and rhd chargers. I'll have to look at the 3.3kW charger I have now and see if it matches a part number in that list a few pages back.

Otherwise are the cables and everything the same? For those that did the swap, no other upgrades were required right?

Thanks!

gugusse
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Re: 6.6 kw charger on 2013 S model.

Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:08 am

I saw that because I had the opportunity to buy one from the UK (quite expensive) and not sure it would work so I didn't get it.
For sure every connector was at the same place! Anyway it would cost to much to change the design of a motor just because of that.

It was a 292C0-4NR3B a rest of the world part would be 4NP3B but that is for after 2015. Before... No idea!

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