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Leaf suspension mods from Juke?

Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:05 pm

I'm a new owner of a used '13 SV and new to the forums, here is my 1st post.

I have searched and could not find any references to this relationship. The Nissan Leaf part codes for the major suspension pieces match those of the Nissan Juke. Sure the part numbers are going to be different since the vehicle weight and comfort tuning are going to be different. Or are they different? Many are NOT.

The big question: Can we can apply Juke (fwd) aftermarket pieces to the Leaf?!?!?


Part numbers/Part codes
Rear spring | part code: 55020M
  • Nissan Leaf 12/2012 to 4/2014 Part Number: 550203NF0B superceded to 550203NF0CSAME
  • Nissan Juke 9/2012 to 05/2014 Part number: 550203NF0B superceded to 550203NF0CSAME
Rear shock | part code: 56210K
  • Nissan Leaf 12/2012 to 4/2014 Part Number: E62103NF1JSAME
  • Nissan Juke 9/2012 to 05/2014 Part number: E62103NF1JSAME
Rear suspension beam | part code: 55501A I'm betting the different part number for the Juke is due to the size of the swaybar inside.
  • Nissan Leaf 12/2012 to 4/2013 Part Number: 555013NF0A superceded to 555013NF0B SAME
  • Nissan Leaf 4/2013 to 4/2014 Part Number: 555013NF0B SAME
Nissan Leaf
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  • Nissan Juke (fwd) 9/2011 to 05/2014 Part number: 555011KA0D superceded to 555011KA1B

Nissan Juke (fwd)
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Not only is the rear beam the same. I see other parts with the same part codes AND part numbers:
  • Bottom spring seat: Part code 55032m | Part number: 55032EN00A SAME
  • Spring: Part code 55020M | Part number: 550203NF0B superceded with 550203NF0C SAME
  • Top spring seat: Part code 55034 | Part number: 550343NA0A SAME
Lower subframe | part code: 54400M
  • Nissan Leaf 12/2012 to 4/2014 Part Number: 544003NF0A SAME
  • Nissan Juke 9/2012 to 05/2014 Part number: 544003NF0A SAME
Front suspension lower control arms | part code: 54500
  • [RH]Nissan Leaf 12/2012 to 4/2014 Part Number: 545003NF0A SAME
  • [RH]Nissan Juke 9/2012 to 05/2014 Part number: 545003NF0A SAME
  • [LH]Nissan Leaf 12/2012 to 4/2014 Part Number: 545013NF0A SAME
  • [LH]Nissan Juke 9/2012 to 05/2014 Part number: 545013NF0A SAME
Front suspension swaybar | part code: 54611
  • Nissan Leaf 12/2012 to 4/2014 Part Number: 546113NF0A SAME
  • Nissan Juke 9/2012 to 05/2014 Part number: 546113NF0A SAME
Front suspension swaybar link | part code: 54618
  • Nissan Leaf 12/2012 to 4/2014 Part Number: 546183NF0A SAME
  • Nissan Juke 9/2012 to 05/2014 Part number: 546183NF0A SAME
Strut mount | part code: 54320 & 54320+A
  • Nissan Leaf 12/2012 to 4/2014 Part Number: 543201KA0B SAME
  • Nissan Juke 9/2012 to 05/2014 Part number: 543201KA0B SAME
[RH]Front Strut | part code: 54302K
  • Nissan Leaf 12/2012 to 4/2014 Part Number: E43023NF1ASAME
  • Nissan Juke 9/2012 to 05/2014 Part number: E43023NF1ASAME
[LH]Front Strut | part code: 54303K
  • Nissan Leaf 12/2012 to 4/2014 Part Number: E43033NF1ASAME
  • Nissan Juke 9/2012 to 05/2014 Part number: E43033NF1ASAME

OEM Part number source: https://parts.nissanusa.com/nissanparts ... &siteid=14 (toggle different years)

Edmunds suspension walkaround:
2011 Nissan Leaf https://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/track-tests/2011-nissan-leaf-suspension-walkaround.html
2011 Nissan Juke (unfortunately an AWD version)https://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/track-tests/2011-nissan-juke-sl-suspension-walkaround.html

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General suspension tuning guide: http://www.rapid-racer.com/suspension-tuning.php

Front wheel drive tuning usually involves decreasing the understeer. So folks increase the roll stiffness of the rear with a bigger swaybar or higher spring rate. Some increase the front grip with more camber and/or less front swaybar (or less front spring rate).
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Re: Leaf suspension mods from Juke?

Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:05 pm

Juke parts which could potentially fit the Leaf. All are FWD version of the Juke.


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2013 Juke NISMO OEM suspension
  • [RH]Front strut. Part number: E43021KC2A | Fits 09/2011 to 10/2014
  • [LH]Front strut. Part number: E43031KC2A | Fits 09/2011 to 10/2014
  • Front spring. Part number: 540101KC3A | Fits 09/2011 to 10/2014
  • Front swaybar. Part number: 546111KC0A | Fits 09/2011 to 10/2014
  • Rear strut. Part number: E62101KC3A | Fits 09/2011 to 10/2014
  • Rear spring. Part number: 550201KA4B | Fits 09/2011 to 10/2014
  • NISMO’s springs are 10 percent stiffer

2015 Juke NISMO RS OEM suspension
  • [RH]Front strut. (same as standard Nismo)
  • [LH]Front strut. (same as standard Nismo)
  • Front spring. (same as standard Nismo)
  • Front swaybar. (same as standard Nismo)
  • Front lower brace. Part number: 544C41KA0B | Fits 10/2014 to 08/2016
  • Rear strut. (same as standard Nismo)
  • Rear spring. (same as standard Nismo)
No difference except the lower brace! It is the item on the far right (#544C4N)
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OEM Part number source: https://parts.nissanusa.com/nissanparts ... &siteid=14 (toggle different years)

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Cusco rear swaybar
  • 16mm bolt on. Part number: 271311B16

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NISMO S-Tune Suspension springs
  • Lowering springs with new bumpstops for rear shocks. Part number: 54000-RNF50. Fits Juke 2011 to 2017.

Tanabe NF210 Lowering Springs
  • Lowering springs. Up to a 1.5” drop with a slightly raised (5%) spring rate. Part number: TNF157.
  • Front Spring Rate: 2.1 kg/mm | Rear Spring Rate: 3.4 kg/mm | Front Drop: 1.2 in. | Rear drop: 1.5 in.

Pro-Kit performance Springs
  • Lowering springs. Part number: 63104.540.
  • Front: 1.2 in | Rear: 1.2 in | Tested With Factory Dampers.

RS-R Down Sus Lowering Springs
  • Lowering springs. Part number: N311D
  • Front -30mm to -35mm (-1.2inch to -1.4inch) | Rear -35mm to -40mm (-1.4inch to -1.6inch) | Front 2.35kg/mm | Rear 5.10kg/mm

RS-R Down Sus Lowering Springs
  • Lowering springs. Part number: N311D
  • Front -30mm to -35mm (-1.2inch to -1.4inch) | Rear -35mm to -40mm (-1.4inch to -1.6inch) | Front 2.35kg/mm | Rear 5.10kg/mm

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Eibach Front Camber bolts
  • Camber Bolts 14mm. Part number: 5.81260K.
  • Camber +/-1.75 Degrees Of Adjustment.
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Re: Leaf suspension mods from Juke?

Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:14 pm

Interesting observation of the similar part numbers. Definitely a good post for reference :-)

However, perhaps I am not following your rationale here...

If you are planning to rip-out the OEM stuff from the Leaf, why re-select OEM parts once again (from the Juke)?

If you are going through all that labor cost/trouble, just go with the best aftermarket suspension parts, right? It's a bit of effort (man power) to work on the suspension, so you'd want to do it right the first time around with the best aftermarkets installed.

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Re: Leaf suspension mods from Juke?

Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:10 pm

Nice find Eggroller. I didn't even think about the Juke, but while looking through Nissan parts drawings I came accross '07-'13 Nissan Versa has very similar suspension to the Leaf. I bought a set of Versa springs to mess around with and attempt to lower my Leaf.

mxp, depends on what you are looking for. Used OEM parts can be had for pennies on the dollar for instance. Also OEM parts are engineered and built to a much higher tolerance than a lot of aftermarket parts. For me, I want OEM springs because I want an OEM ride, but lower ride height.
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Re: Leaf suspension mods from Juke?

Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:25 pm

mxp wrote:If you are planning to rip-out the OEM stuff from the Leaf, why re-select OEM parts once again (from the Juke)?

There is a stronger aftermarket support for the the Juke. Buy the parts from the Juke install on the LEAF.

Since the part numbers are the same across the board. We have a suspension system built for the 2900 lbs Juke on a 3300 lbs Leaf. No wonder it is soft and roll-y.
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Re: Leaf suspension mods from Juke?

Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:11 am

Eggroller wrote:Since the part numbers are the same across the board. We have a suspension system built for the 2900 lbs Juke on a 3300 lbs Leaf. No wonder it is soft and roll-y.

I do not think the parts are actually the same between the cars, just similar design and same part numbers. The Versa also has the same spring part numbers but they are different. Also I noticed a Nissan Titan has the same part numbers for the large components even though they are obviously different. Still aftermarket Juke parts might be a good match, or those Nismo Juke parts sounds like they might be the ticket.
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Re: Leaf suspension mods from Juke?

Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:13 pm

Anyone friends with a Nissan tech? Can we confirm any of this?
Lower suspension would increase aerodynamics which increases range. Plus, the leaf is ridiculously 'tall'. I think it could use a 1" drop.

While we are on the topic of suspension, has anyone ever weighed the wheels & factory tires? 17" wheels seemed strange over a lighter 15 or 16" option.
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Re: Leaf suspension mods from Juke?

Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:41 pm

Juke Nismo springs and struts on ebay for $399 or best offer. Someone should get these and report back if they lower the car or change the handling. I would but I need to try my set of Versa springs first.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2014-NISSAN-JUK ... Nh&vxp=mtr
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Re: Leaf suspension mods from Juke?

Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:47 pm

VitaminJ wrote:Juke Nismo springs and struts on ebay for $399 or best offer. Someone should get these and report back if they lower the car or change the handling. I would but I need to try my set of Versa springs first.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2014-NISSAN-JUK ... Nh&vxp=mtr


Not gonna throw away $400 on used parts that we don't know for sure will work.

We need to talk to a Nissan technician that has worked on both and can tell us if they are interchangeable.
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Re: Leaf suspension mods from Juke?

Fri Feb 24, 2017 9:23 pm

Deathwater wrote:Not gonna throw away $400 on used parts that we don't know for sure will work.

We need to talk to a Nissan technician that has worked on both and can tell us if they are interchangeable.

Firstly, it wouldn't be throwing away anything, if they don't fit put them back on ebay. Secondly, Eggroller's research is sound and parts commonality is 99% certain. I did the same research on Nissan Versa parts and came up with the same answer, bought the parts, and am waiting for spring to install them. They are sitting on my shelf. I have measured the Versa springs with a caliper and they will fit as if they were engineered to fit. The only uncertainties are A) what will the ride-height be and B) the handling. If A is too tall, that's easily solved. Otherwise, back to the drawing board. As I said before I didn't even think of the Juke but now I am kicking myself.

A Nissan technician is probably the 3rd to last person I would ask. No offense to any Nissan employees personally, but car dealerships of any make of car are bottomless pit of despair.
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