SageBrush
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Re: Really inexpensive Level 2 chargers on aliexpress!?!

Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:34 am

I considered the ~ $100 extra I paid for a Clipper Creek a no brainer in return for customer support, future proofing, faster charging today, and quality components for fire safety and long-term reliability.
2013 LEAF 'S' Model with QC & rear-view camera
Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California
Car is now enjoying an easy life in Colorado
3/2018: 58 Ahr, 28k miles
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alozzy
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Re: Really inexpensive Level 2 chargers on aliexpress!?!

Tue Sep 05, 2017 2:23 pm

To each his own, but if I had a Leaf S w/o the charging package, I would spend as little as possible on a 240V/16A EVSE (although I'd spend a bit more for one with favorable reviews). Definitely less than $200 all in...

The OP will likely have his 2014 S for a few years, at which point he'll likely want a 240V/50A EVSE for his next EV. I guarantee that EVSE will be cheaper in a few years than it would be now.
Vancouver, CA owner of a 2013 Ocean Blue SV + QC, purchased 01/2017 in WA
Zencar 12/20/24/30A L1/L2 portable EVSE
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Loving my first BEV :D

garsh
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Re: Really inexpensive Level 2 chargers on aliexpress!?!

Wed Sep 06, 2017 1:45 am

alozzy wrote:To each his own, but if I had a Leaf S w/o the charging package, I would spend as little as possible on a 240V/16A EVSE.
That was my philosophy too. My 2012 Leaf only has a 3.3kWh charger, and it didn't seem worth spending too much money on a 5yo car. I just bought a Duosida EVSE for $160. I confirmed that it had a 220v rating, cut off the european plug, and put a 15-40 on it. Great little charging upgrade compared to the trickle charger I had been using.
2012 Black SV, 7 bars, 100,000 miles

rmay635703
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Re: Really inexpensive Level 2 chargers on aliexpress!?!

Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:29 am

Nubo wrote:
Nubo wrote:I think 16A is perfectly fine for many folks' residential use and workplace charging. And perhaps counter-intuitively, as pack sizes increase home charging rate becomes less important imo. The car's "capability" is not an imperative. What determines your needed rate is how many miles of range you consume over a given time period, keeping in mind the battery's role as an accumulator. Lots of unnecessary compulsion to high amperage in the name of "future proofing", I think.

On-the-road charging is a different matter of course.


Exactly, because I can charge at work & home aka 20hrs+ a day of charging even with a Bolt driving 220+ miles on the weekend by the math I could get away with a 110vac charger it would just take a few days of my rather short commute to get a full battery

I strongly believe cheap 110vac workplace charging & at hotels is the most important infrastructure, 10 hours at work gives 50 miles range even in 110vac and that doesn't count if you can take advantage of the full 16amp capacity of most industrial outlets.

Ah well

sandeen
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Re: Really inexpensive Level 2 chargers on aliexpress!?!

Wed Sep 06, 2017 6:54 am

Most of these cheapo units aren't UL listed - just a point to consider.
(When I rewired my garage, I pulled a permit for an EVSE, and the inspector would not sign off on a non-UL-listed EVSE)
(So I just unplugged it, and plugged in the Nissan L1 and said "there you go" and he said "ok, then!") ;)
2012 SL from TX, (mfg 8/12), used, dropped to 8 bars at 43.50 Ahr, 40,601 miles. my daily stats =/= my collected data on 4-bar losers

specialgreen
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Re: Really inexpensive Level 2 chargers on aliexpress!?!

Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:57 pm

sandeen wrote:When I rewired my garage, I pulled a permit for an EVSE


I don't think a permit would normally be necessary for a plug-in EVSE. My understanding is that NEC code establishes standards for permanent wiring, up-to and including the receptacle. What you plug into the outlet is usually out of scope for NEC.

There are other restrictions on what you can plug-in: although my refrigerator needs a dedicated branch circuit (municipality code) and must be UL-listed (per my home insurance policy), I don't need to pull a permit to plug it in.

An inspector can also take the observed uses of wiring into account, such as if they are inspecting a new 120v branch circuit, but they notice an EVSE plugged into the 14-50R dryer outlet, and ask for a load study before approving the 120v branch circuit. But there's nothing illegal about having the EVSE unplugged or put-away during inspection.

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Randy
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Re: Really inexpensive Level 2 chargers on aliexpress!?!

Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:18 pm

Siemens 30 amp EVSE, with 20 foot car cord. $359 at Costco for 3 days with free shipping. UL Listed for safety. 3 year warranty, indoor or outdoor use.

It comes with a 20 foot J1772 cord to the car that wraps around the body of the EVSE, and this unit is one of the few EVSE around that has a delayed charge setting on the front panel (2, 4, 6, or 8 hour delay).

Can be hard-wired or will plug into a NEMA 6-50 receptacle.

https://www.costco.com/VersiCharge-LVL- ... 95506.html

webeleafowners
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Re: Really inexpensive Level 2 chargers on aliexpress!?!

Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:49 pm

For what it's worth we have one. We use it to charge our smart ED every second day. It only has a 3.3 K charger so... Works good. We paid about 45 bucks more but had a 14-50 plug put on it.

We use a juicebox for the leaf.
2015 Smart Electric Drive convertible.
2016 Nissan Leaf SV 30KWh
EV only Family...well except for the big diesel motorhome. :shock:

testmonkey
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Re: Really inexpensive Level 2 chargers on aliexpress!?!

Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:34 pm

jerrys wrote:I got one like it off eBay and it works great! Other plug styles and amps are also available on eBay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/EVSE-Level-2-charger-EV-Electric-Car-Charger-16-Amp-220-240-v-DUOSIDA-6-20-/252919048288?hash=item3ae3266860


I have this and it works great for my 2011 SL.

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