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Re: Securing Nissan brick for airport or other public chargi

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:31 am
by davewill
Franko30 wrote:... Or do people in the US actually cut off the "brick" (what's the correct term - we in Germany use in-cable-control-box)?

Brick theft is not much of a problem yet in Germany - but people begin thinking about it. But then, our "bricks" dont cost a thousand dollars, "just" around 300-400 EUR (between 390 and 520 US-$). ...
The "brick" isn't really the issue, at least for now. The issue is people stealing the cable for the copper.

Re: Securing Nissan brick for airport or other public chargi

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:37 am
by Christopher
And sorry to add to people's worries, but my sister-in-law reported that her office's fleet vehicle LEAF was damaged by somebody coming along and shoving the charge panel door open beyond it's limit. Broke the panel door and I think she said the hood was damaged. This is in Portland, Oregon. The vehicle is left to charge in a publicly accessible location everyday at a permanent L2 station.

Of course every parked vehicle is open to random acts of damage: keying, etc.

Re: Securing Nissan brick for airport or other public chargi

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:46 am
by palmermd
Ingineer has a "hook thingy" (official term) that will help these issues. It is basically a latch that hooks the charge port door to the factory latch while locking in the j1772 connector to the car. Amazingly simple device. It will probably show up in his revamped store the same time as leafscan.

Re: Securing Nissan brick for airport or other public chargi

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 12:26 pm
by gascant
palmermd wrote:Ingineer has a "hook thingy" (official term) that will help these issues. It is basically a latch that hooks the charge port door to the factory latch while locking in the j1772 connector to the car. Amazingly simple device. It will probably show up in his revamped store the same time as leafscan.

The hook thingy will definitely prevent premature unplugging by another EV owner or malicious passer-by. But you still need to hang the brick somewhere. I like the idea of putting it in the engine compartment as a retrofit. But, this is a great idea for future models to be built in.

Re: Securing Nissan brick for airport or other public chargi

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:06 pm
by smkettner
I wish there was a simple lockable NEMA 5-15 inlet for 120v charging. Keep the J plug for 240 only.
If my 100' extension cord is cut and taken I would get over it and just purchase another.
Oh well. It is what it is.

Re: Securing Nissan brick for airport or other public chargi

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:48 pm
by gascant
It turns out that there is a huge open space above the bumper once you remove the plastic guard piece. It wouldn't be blocking air flow to the radiator, either (and don't forget, there's a fan on the latter anyway). Just have to come up with some creative way to mount the brick, run the cable, etc. However, there's plenty of space if Nissan wanted to have something permanently installed and then just have a male connector accessible to an extension cord.

Re: Securing Nissan brick for airport or other public chargi

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:31 pm
by planet4ever
Well, I'm happy with my little padlock on the J1772 connector. It won't stop a determined thief, but then, neither will any of the other schemes you guys are cooking up. All they have to do is break a window or pick (or jiggle) the lock or clone the remote's communication and they'll have the hood up in a jiffy. I'm interested in dissuading opportunistic thieves while maintaining the electrical safety features that J1772 was designed to provide. And that includes using a very short cable between the EVSE and the wall, because of safety features that work only between the EVSE and the car.

Ray

Re: Securing Nissan brick for airport or other public chargi

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 2:21 am
by Franko30
gascant wrote:Seems like people here in the US will steal almost anything these days. We keep having instances of UPS/FedEx packages disappearing from porches within a few minutes of being delivered.


Well, here they simply aren't allowed to drop off stuff on a porch or such. Only with a signature of you (or someone living in your household) they are allowed to "let go" of the parcel.

Cheers

Frank

Re: Securing Nissan brick for airport or other public chargi

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:24 am
by DaveinOlyWA
Franko30 wrote:
gascant wrote:Seems like people here in the US will steal almost anything these days. We keep having instances of UPS/FedEx packages disappearing from porches within a few minutes of being delivered.


Well, here they simply aren't allowed to drop off stuff on a porch or such. Only with a signature of you (or someone living in your household) they are allowed to "let go" of the parcel.

Cheers

Frank


that is dependent upon the shipper. Verizon REQUIRES a signature for all fedex simply because fedex insures delivery TO the person and pays for all missing items.

Re: Securing Nissan brick for airport or other public chargi

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:33 am
by Ingineer
smkettner wrote:Loop around your wrist and elbow is free ;)
DON'T!

Definitely not!

We get EVSE's in all the time that have been wrapped this way and their cables are trashed! You should ALWAYS do the over/under!

You will benefit from way less tangles, and the cable will still look/act new after many uses.

Here's a video showing how: (Disclaimer: Not mine!)


-Phil