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10,000 Euro 'bonus' planned for EV's in France

Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:29 am

I had heard that in France, but especially in Paris where they wanted to 'ban' ICE cars eventually they were planning something pretty drastic … of course VAT extra costs raise the price over there but this equates to about $11,315 USD incentive to trade-in your pre '05 diesel car for an EV

http://www.ecartec.com/electric-vehicles-en/france-e10000-bonus-plan-electric-cars/
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Re: 10,000 Euro 'bonus' planned for EV's in France

Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:12 am

Sounds a little less than the previous statement that diesel vehicles were a mistake. Maybe it's a good first step but they should offset done of that cost with an increased tax on new diesel vehicles.
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Re: 10,000 Euro 'bonus' planned for EV's in France

Sun Feb 08, 2015 11:09 am

I think the point is that the newer Urea injected diesels are very clean and there is little ROI in replacing them...

minispeed wrote:Sounds a little less than the previous statement that diesel vehicles were a mistake. Maybe it's a good first step but they should offset done of that cost with an increased tax on new diesel vehicles.
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Re: 10,000 Euro 'bonus' planned for EV's in France

Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:41 pm

Yes they are cleaner but the news out of France isn't that they want clean diesel is that they don't want any passenger diesel cars.

When i went back to find the link they talked about doing it in phases so it doesn't sound like a change in policy just that they want the most bang for their buck.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSL6N0TI42020141128?irpc=932

This announcement from France also came after a lot of news and talk in the EU that on road diesel performance was no where near the lab certified results like this test

http://www.theicct.org/real-world-exhau ... iesel-cars

15 cars 6400 km 140 hrs avg 7x higher NOx. Some cars meet the limit under some conditions but that avg was higher than year 2000 standards.

Yes there little incentive for a consumer to replace a new car but the government plan isn't to benefit the citizens pocket book its to benefit the air quality. If they are capping the amount of rebates given then only allowing the old cars is a good idea. If they want to improve air quality they should open it up to all cars and not just encourage ev but penalize new diesel cars.


TomT wrote:I think the point is that the newer Urea injected diesels are very clean and there is little ROI in replacing them...

minispeed wrote:Sounds a little less than the previous statement that diesel vehicles were a mistake. Maybe it's a good first step but they should offset done of that cost with an increased tax on new diesel vehicles.
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Re: 10,000 Euro 'bonus' planned for EV's in France

Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:03 am

here close to vienna,i got 12.500.-euro bonus,that means the leaf tekna costs me 19.000.-euro after 39 payments(jan.2017),with the last payment the ownership changes to me.i hope to get 18-20.000.-euro then.
maybe i keep the car,if there are bigger batteries avalable,if not i buy a tesla
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Re: 10,000 Euro 'bonus' planned for EV's in France

Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:36 am

I believe I read or heard that president Obama has in his proposed budget a $10,000 Federal tax credit..up from the current $7,500.

Wonder which state has the best rebate at this time.

At one time it was West Virginia.

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