RegGuheert wrote:Call it what you will, Toyota sold nearly 71,000 copies of the XW10 according to Wikipedia. Of those 71,000 XW10s, it sounds like over 37,000 were the NHW10 style:cwerdna wrote:I'd say that NHW10 was pretty close to a Toyota science experiment, at best.In other words, Toyota built more of the NHW10 style that you referred to as a "science experiment" than the NHW11, which you referred to as the first generation Prii. That doesn't sound like a science experiment to me. Perhaps the article is in error?Wikipedia wrote:Production commenced in December 1997 at the Takaoka plant in Toyota, Aichi, ending in February 2000 after cumulative production of 37,425 vehicles. Production recommenced in May 2000 at the Motomachi plant in the same area, before XW10 manufacture ended in June 2003 after a further 33,411 vehicles had been produced.
I'll have to check the production numbers. It drives me nuts that some "genius" decided to screw with the Prius wikipedia entry long ago and use XW crap. Toyota has NEVER called their Priuses XWnn. It's always been NHW10, NHW11, NHW20, ZVW30, etc. (a few more at http://prius.wikia.com/wiki/Prius_Wiki). One can see identifier plates/labels at http://prius.wikia.com/wiki/Prius_Labels and Google for stuff like toyota nhw10 site:toyota.co.jp vs. toyota xw10 site:toyota.co.jp.
I didn't want to bother changing it as doing so had too many other repercussions.
I've ranted about this numerous times like at http://priuschat.com/threads/xw3-a-zvw3 ... st-1790341 and http://priuschat.com/threads/what-kind- ... st-1421582 as it unfortunately causes confusion to newbies.
By "science experiment" I wasn't really referring to production numbers anyway. I'm talking about the technology and it being the first vehicle I'm aware of to use Hybrid Synergy Drive. It used D-cells (which I hear weren't very good) instead of prismatic form batteries. It was JDM-only. It had a "jump-starting" feature (see http://priuschat.com/attachments/12v_2_ ... pdf.34033/) that was removed on all Priuses that followed. Its engine was pretty wimpy and battery pack energy density low. Oh, and for those who own a JDM-only NHW10 outside Japan, the UI and controls are all in Japanese. I don't think any of Toyota's service manuals for it were ever translated (officially) from Japanese to other languages, as there wasn't a need to. So, it's a science experiment for them too.
Even now, I wouldn't recommend anyone buy a used NHW11, let alone a NHW10. I'd suggest they up their budget to a NHW20.