SageBrush wrote: lorenfb wrote:
From my POV, the LEAF has degraded into a compliance car for NIssan through corporate neglect.
Do I interpret that correctly, i.e. you bought a POV Leaf but have a negative view of Nissan? If that's correct,
tell us someone "forced you" to buy one.
What is a POV LEAF ?
To answer your presumed question while ignoring the baiting, I bought my used LEAF based on a calculation of value, meaning expected utility for price paid. If that is not explicit enough, try this: the car was so cheap I accept the risks inherent in dealing with a company that is going to offer the least legally mandated customer support it can get away with, for a car that has suspect battery technology. I mitigate my gamble by 1. buying a car that has excellent LEAFSpy results; 2. placing it into a service that is not demanding and tolerant of degradation; and 3. willingness to learn enough about the car to pamper and maintain it for a hopefully long life. I expect the car to work great for my uses and to enjoy ownership, warts and all.
Technology quality is a shade of grey and being a fanboy of a corporation is not a required initiation rite for purchase. I also represent the flip side of this, by the way: I AM a strong advocate of all things Tesla and Elon Musk but I have never given serious consideration to buying a Model S or Model X and time will tell if I exercise my Model 3 reservation.
Sorry to confuse you -- enthusiasts tend to have a myopic view. Your angst reminds me of football fans with their irrational tribal loves, hatreds, and biases.
The term used in finance is Net Present Value (NPV), i.e. cost of an asset over time, assuming a zero salvage
value in this case, at an assumed cost of capital interest rate. Your basis for your NPV (POV) is not quantifiable.
Since your #2 & #3 are highly subjective, they hardly mitigate one's view of the potential negative aspects
of a purchase. How about using the term, YGV (your guesstimate of value). Most rational buyers when
they have a negative view of the company, don't buy its products.
So you have concluded based on POV (your term) that the Leaf is just a compliance car for Nissan, right?
And what would you call the 20+ EVs on the InsideEVs 2016 sales list with less sales volumes than the Leaf?
Your conclusion is a non sequitar. Anything of significance to contribute to this thread?
Leaf SL MY 9/13: 65K miles, 50 Ahrs, 5.2 miles/kWh (average), L2 charges to 100% > 1000, max battery temp < 95F, min discharge point > 20 Ahrs