fotajoye wrote:The problem with legacy car makers, i.e., Nissan, GM, etc., is they are tied to a huge investment in Internal combustion engines with a dealer network that is based mostly on the repair business of fixing mechanical breakages. It is estimated each repair bay is worth a million dollars plus a year to a dealer....And, breakage and repair has been their way for a hundred years. What is occurring in this transition over to electric cars is the dealers and car makers are pricing in their costs of making that transition on the backs of the EV buyers...so, the Government kicks in subsides to assist them.
A pricing conspiracy among the ICEV manufacturers and their inability to lose money like Tesla does making BEVs is
the basis for their present position in the BEV market, right?
fotajoye wrote:You and I know a basic EV is really a pretty simple device...a battery, charger, motor,motor control and wheels,with little dependency on mechanical devices. In theory they should be cheap to build once the economics of scale kicks in.
Have you overlooked the most costly component in an BEV, i.e. the battery which presently significantly limits the BEV's
penetration in the sub-$35K market. With the battery costs presently at around $180 - $200 per kWh, the battery costs
more than a 1600cc ICE for a sub-compact with +40 mpg and a resale price around $20K. Most consumers "yawn" when
asked about considering a BEV purchase.
fotajoye wrote:Sub $20,000 Leafs will someday be normal and except for replacing batteries, a future EV will last until you get tired of driving it.
That "someday" is really doubtful.
fotajoye wrote:Tesla has a decided advantage over GM, Ford and Fiat Chrysler. They don't need bother with ICVs, or their mechanical failures. So, they build only EVs. There are analysts who believe the U.S. car makers are so wedded to the internal combustion engine and fossil fuels they won't make the transition to EVs without first going through bankruptcy and reorganizing.
Oh please! Tesla's technology is basic off-the-shelf technology accessible to all ICEV OEMs. The only real advantage for
Tesla is its SC network. Given Tesla's present financial trajectory, Tesla is more likely to enter bankruptcy than any
Leaf SL MY 9/13: 66K miles, 50 Ahrs, 5.2 miles/kWh (average), Hx=70, SOH=78, L2 charges to 100% > 1000, max battery temp < 95F, min discharge point > 20 Ahrs