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Moving a Leaf to Europe...

Fri Feb 20, 2015 11:20 am

I've had the Leaf for only 8 months and now it looks like I am being relocated to Germany.

Interested in hearing any and all stories of owners who operate EV's to Europe, especially things like negotiating with the other residents in an apartment building to get a charging outlet set up.

Thx.

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Re: Moving a Leaf to Europe...

Thu Feb 26, 2015 10:04 am

Might want to consider getting rid of the car beforehand. Looks like it could run a couple thousand to get it there, and weeks to ship.

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Re: Moving a Leaf to Europe...

Thu Feb 26, 2015 12:06 pm

Would you need a new EVSE due to differing power standards?

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Re: Moving a Leaf to Europe...

Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:48 am

If the OP is being "relocated" to Germany that implies that the OP's employer, possibly the US military, is behind this move so he or she won't have to worry about shipping costs.

The EVSE is definitely going to be an issue. A non-upgraded stock one is NOT going to be compatible with Europe's 230 volt 50 Hz electricity. The OP may want to contact EVSE Upgrade to see if their units will work in Europe with a plug adapter, or if a different cable is needed.

Switching the displays to metric is just a matter of a push of a button. The AM/FM radio will work but many European radio stations are on the .05 (like 101.75) whereas ours are every .2 so there will be some radio stations you will not be able to pick up. Many European radio stations are also digital now and you won't be able to pick those up. XM of course will not work.

If the OP has an SV or SL, another thing that will definitely not work is CarWings; I don't know if anybody who has imported a U.S. Leaf to Europe was able to successfully swap out the AT&T SIM card for a local one. Swapping out the GPS data card may be an issue as well.
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Re: Moving a Leaf to Europe...

Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:56 am

Thanks for the thoughts so far.

1) The move is indeed being paid for. Even if it weren't, the price difference in cars is so large that I could move it myself, sell it when I got there, and still come away with $3000 or so.

2) It looks like charging at home would be quicker. The standard wall outlet in Germany is already 230 V. It is not unheard of for driers to be on a 16 Amp fuse. I can by a Euro-appropriate charger when I get there.

3) My biggest issue is getting my own dang line. Unless I win the lottery, I'll be living in a multi-unit building. I can't imagine the neighbors being too keen on paying for me to charge my car at night.

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Re: Moving a Leaf to Europe...

Fri Feb 27, 2015 11:35 am

One more issue, which I am also interested in with imported US car to Europe is making the navigation work with European map. So far I haven't found any solutions online. If I missed some, I would be more than happy if someone posts it here. Thanks!
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Re: Moving a Leaf to Europe...

Sat Mar 07, 2015 7:14 am

lipcius wrote:One more issue, which I am also interested in with imported US car to Europe is making the navigation work with European map. So far I haven't found any solutions online. If I missed some, I would be more than happy if someone posts it here. Thanks!


You will need to buy a new Nav SD card with the European maps on it. Here is one here: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nissan-Connec ... 1860482821 for what looks like 80 pounds ($150ish I think). All you would have to do is pop out your current SD card, pop this in, and then it will load the maps and you will be good to go. Save your current SD card though for when you return! Things are $200 from the dealer if I'm not mistaken.
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Re: Moving a Leaf to Europe...

Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:21 am

Roadburner440 wrote:
lipcius wrote:One more issue, which I am also interested in with imported US car to Europe is making the navigation work with European map. So far I haven't found any solutions online. If I missed some, I would be more than happy if someone posts it here. Thanks!


You will need to buy a new Nav SD card with the European maps on it. Here is one here: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nissan-Connec ... 1860482821 for what looks like 80 pounds ($150ish I think). All you would have to do is pop out your current SD card, pop this in, and then it will load the maps and you will be good to go. Save your current SD card though for when you return! Things are $200 from the dealer if I'm not mistaken.


Sadly this does not work. The US head unit is not compatible with European SD cards. Furthermore - every SD card is encrypted to exactly one car (when purchasing), so to buy a SD card on ebay is just a waste of Money.. As far as I know the only way is to either buy a completely new Navigation unit (~5000$) from the dealer, or find a crashed European Leaf and buy such unit second hand, or reprogram the US Navigation Unit. Sadly haven't heard that anyone was succesful with this yet... Same goes with Carwings unit and sim card compatibility...

If someone has more information, would be great if you share.
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Re: Moving a Leaf to Europe...

Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:21 pm

I would drive it to Norway, and sell it for a healthy profit.

Then, buy a EU spec LEAF.

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Re: Moving a Leaf to Europe...

Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:47 am

I was in a similar situation. Besides the navigation system (and carwings) not working, I also had to install a Rear fog lamp. Nebelschlussleuchte (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebelschlussleuchte).

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