Valdemar
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Re: 2016 LEAF Specifications

Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:42 am

drees wrote:
Firetruck41 wrote:The fact that it fits in the same footprint, is sold alongside cars w/24kWh pack and both have 192 cells, are all positives. But other than that, I am waiting for more knowledgable reponses to this question as well.

Yep, it sure sounds like it should physically fit just fine...


I'm sure if backwards compatibility is a no-go the reason will be not a technical one.
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Re: 2016 LEAF Specifications

Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:13 am

I wonder if the 30 kwh models will still report gids (or something like it). If so... I guess we can expect about 351 to 358 gids on a full charge on a new battery?

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Re: 2016 LEAF Specifications

Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:19 am

mid Sept announcement, no price increase, longer warranty implying better batteries...

hmmm, where have I heard all this before??
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2016 Leaf Officially Announced by Nissan 9/10/15

Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:26 am

I came here to see some comments but none yet.

Here is the link with press kit and photos.

http://nissannews.com/en-US/nissan/usa/releases/new-2016-nissan-leaf-now-offers-best-in-class-107-mile-range-in-affordable-fun-to-drive-package

I like the new screen and curious like most if the 30Kwh battery can be retrofitted into the prior models. I am lucky to still have 11 out of 12 bars with almost 30k miles so I am in no rush.

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Re: 2016 LEAF Specifications

Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:45 am

No mention of 3G or 4G cellular connection that I can find. What's up with that? December of 2016 is coming pretty soon! Shame to see all that pretty NissanConnect stuff stop working.

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hillzofvalp
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Re: 2016 LEAF Specifications

Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:51 am

I have a callback request from consumer affairs regarding purchasing the 30kWh pack. Said they'd get back to me by tomorrow

TimLee
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Re: 2016 LEAF Specifications

Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:59 am

If the SV $1,900 price increase is all due to the additional 6 kWh, that is a pricing of $316.67 per kWh.

Probably about right for Nissan's real production cost.

Means the $5,499 24 kWh battery is being sold ~28% below cost.

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Re: 2016 LEAF Specifications

Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:04 am

It would be nice if Nissan would offer to sell 30 kWh pack for earlier vehicles.

But they have been unwilling to do much to fix errors in the earlier LEAFs, especially if it involved software.

Hard to see them being willing to write software to put 30 kWh pack in earlier vehicles :(

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Re: 2016 LEAF Specifications

Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:14 am

Tim, it would be a very good engineering decision to make the onboard computers accept a given bms signal as long as it is compatible. I would also guess that the capacity reporting is done by the bms (on the battery) and that since there have been pictures of a variety of packs tested with the older leafs that it probably doesn't matter.

Nissan would have a hard time PR wise if in 3 years when merely 10% (~20,000 drivers) of their user base wanted replacements, they had to revert to old tech. No way. They are going to make whatever fits in the battery enclosure work with any first gen leaf

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Re: 2016 LEAF Specifications

Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:17 am

From a practicality standpoint, maybe they are putting off refreshing the old leaf firmware for people to try to push the chaos until when they can say... Oh... Sorry the new firmware is only available for the 30kWh pack.. Would you like to buy one?

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