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Re: people getting rid of their Leafs/EVs/PHEVs and going back to ICEVs

Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:14 pm

GRA wrote:A perfect demonstration of how impractical a short range BEV is for road trips without QCs, or the time suck involved even with them beyond a single charging stop.


Personally I'd be happy with 6kW level 2 charging stations all over the place, as long as they didn't charge an arm and a leg.

GRA wrote:BTW, when you say the highest town in Colorado, are you referring to Alma, Winter Park or Leadville? I've driven Trail Ridge Road through Rocky Mtn. NP (max. elev. 12,145') a couple of times, I-70 through the tunnel once and also across the divide on the dirt Hagerman Pass Rd. (11,979') that runs between Meredith and Leadville (we were installing a solar lighting system on the 10th Mtn. Division Betty Bear ski hut, and stayed in the Skinner hut).


I meant Leadville.

PS. I grew up in Alma.
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Re: people getting rid of their Leafs/EVs/PHEVs and going back to ICEVs

Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:20 pm

Personally I'd be happy with 6kW level 2 charging stations all over the place, as long as they didn't charge an arm and a leg.


No, the J-1772 protocol is designed to prevent that.



















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Re: people getting rid of their Leafs/EVs/PHEVs and going back to ICEVs

Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:37 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
Personally I'd be happy with 6kW level 2 charging stations all over the place, as long as they didn't charge an arm and a leg.


No, the J-1772 protocol is designed to prevent that.



















;-)

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Re: people getting rid of their Leafs/EVs/PHEVs and going back to ICEVs

Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:39 am

GRA wrote:
LeftieBiker wrote:No, the J-1772 protocol is designed to prevent that.

;-)

He's here all week.

Did I miss something??
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Re: people getting rid of their Leafs/EVs/PHEVs and going back to ICEVs

Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:08 am

IssacZachary wrote:
GRA wrote:
LeftieBiker wrote:No, the J-1772 protocol is designed to prevent that.

;-)

He's here all week.

Did I miss something??

A play on words I presume.

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Re: people getting rid of their Leafs/EVs/PHEVs and going back to ICEVs

Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:40 am

Just a little joke about electric shock.
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Re: people getting rid of their Leafs/EVs/PHEVs and going back to ICEVs

Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:49 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:Just a little joke about electric shock.

I just got it!!! :lol:

Charge an arm or a leg!!!

Haha!!!
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Re: people getting rid of their Leafs/EVs/PHEVs and going back to ICEVs

Sun Sep 23, 2018 5:23 pm

https://www.facebook.com/groups/NissanL ... 551698423/ is another case. That person got rid of their '17 Leaf and went to a Honda Civic.

I don't know how well that person explored charging or knew of what options there were/weren't where they were going . For those who know the Bay Area, that person did have to go up the steep grades of highway 17 (w/a 50+ mph speed limit up those grades) to go to/from Santa Cruz. That person in some earlier requests for help was using the GOM and became hostile to some who tried to help.

I've personally seen my GOM drop ~40 miles after traveling 10 miles uphill on highway 17.

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Re: people getting rid of their Leafs/EVs/PHEVs and going back to ICEVs

Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:09 am

I'm seriously considering getting rid of my LEAF, but I can't imagine going back to full ICE, I'll most likely choose a PHEV like Volt or a hybrid like the new Honda Accord Hybrid.
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Re: people getting rid of their Leafs/EVs/PHEVs and going back to ICEVs

Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:18 pm

cwerdna wrote:https://www.facebook.com/groups/NissanLeafOwners/permalink/2083995551698423/ is another case. That person got rid of their '17 Leaf and went to a Honda Civic.
Coincidentally, my son just bought a 2018 Honda Civic Turbo instead of the Tesla Model 3 that he had a deposit on. Very nice car. Interestingly, he is getting better mileage in the new car with 175 HP (about 36 MPG) than he previously got with his 2004 Honda Civic Hybrid with about 90 HP (about 34 MPG with an ailing battery). Five of his coworkers now have Teslas, so he had quite a bit of peer pressure to purchase the Model 3.
cwerdna wrote:I don't know how well that person explored charging or knew of what options there were/weren't where they were going . For those who know the Bay Area, that person did have to go up the steep grades of highway 17 (w/a 50+ mph speed limit up those grades) to go to/from Santa Cruz. That person in some earlier requests for help was using the GOM and became hostile to some who tried to help.

I've personally seen my GOM drop ~40 miles after traveling 10 miles uphill on highway 17.
If you live on the Santa Cruz side, you are all set as long as you can make it back to the top of the hill in the evening (assuming you haven't lost all of your regen due to battery degradation)!
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