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Re: people getting rid of their Leafs/EVs/PHEVs and going back to ICEVs

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:42 am
by cwerdna
kolmstead wrote:The Leaf will not have enough range to do my commute as soon as winter hits. I didn't understand when I bought it that it was a disposable car and would be essentially worthless after five years. I bought a a Prius when it became obvious that the Leaf's battery was degrading rapidly, so I'll switch to it this fall and give the Leaf to charity or sell it cheaply. I'll be retiring soon and refuse to buy anything that I can't count on for at least ten years of usefulness.
I figured I'd add pointers to your other posts on this, including where you finally got rid of it.

http://mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?p=454921#p454921
http://mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f ... 34#p475234

Re: people getting rid of their Leafs/EVs/PHEVs and going back to ICEVs

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 10:45 am
by turbo2ltr
I had a 2011 for 3 years (lease) and it has come time for my 2013 to go back after it's lease.

I'm glad it's going back. I still would not buy one here in Phoenix. While the pack was definitely better than the 2011, the past month or 2 have had noticeable range loss. I suspect I'll be losing my second bar soon. I used to get home with 40 miles left. Now it's closer to 20.

I would be open to leasing another for 3 years, but my "long distance" car (2001 Grand Cherokee) was getting unreliable so I had to replace it. Unfortunately, I can't afford two car payments (I'm single).

Honestly the thing I'll miss the most about the leaf is the HOV lane privileges. I will most likely buy a early 2000 CNG civic as a commuter beater just so I can get the HOV lane access. You can find them on craigslist for a few grand. There's a CNG station down the block from my house. I think it will work out good.

Re: people getting rid of their Leafs/EVs/PHEVs and going back to ICEVs

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:45 pm
by DaveinOlyWA
turbo2ltr wrote:I had a 2011 for 3 years (lease) and it has come time for my 2013 to go back after it's lease.

I'm glad it's going back. I still would not buy one here in Phoenix. While the pack was definitely better than the 2011, the past month or 2 have had noticeable range loss. I suspect I'll be losing my second bar soon. I used to get home with 40 miles left. Now it's closer to 20.

I would be open to leasing another for 3 years, but my "long distance" car (2001 Grand Cherokee) was getting unreliable so I had to replace it. Unfortunately, I can't afford two car payments (I'm single).

Honestly the thing I'll miss the most about the leaf is the HOV lane privileges. I will most likely buy a early 2000 CNG civic as a commuter beater just so I can get the HOV lane access. You can find them on craigslist for a few grand. There's a CNG station down the block from my house. I think it will work out good.
well that sucks. super cheap leases on 2016's with 30 kwh packs. I got mine for zero down, $245.99 a month and I also have a junker gasser and glad I don't use it much since I really don't think it could handle much. But with the LEAF, I am only using it 3,000 miles a year. This year, it will hit 5,000 miles but only because I ran out of lease miles on the LEAF... :cry:

Re: people getting rid of their Leafs/EVs/PHEVs and going back to ICEVs

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 4:31 pm
by philip
turbo2ltr wrote:I will most likely buy a early 2000 CNG civic as a commuter beater just so I can get the HOV lane access. You can find them on craigslist for a few grand.
Are they cheap because the CNG tanks are expired and due for replacement? I believe it is 15 years on those.

Re: people getting rid of their Leafs/EVs/PHEVs and going back to ICEVs

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 4:59 pm
by jhm614
turbo2ltr wrote:I would be open to leasing another for 3 years, but my "long distance" car (2001 Grand Cherokee) was getting unreliable so I had to replace it. Unfortunately, I can't afford two car payments (I'm single).

Honestly the thing I'll miss the most about the leaf is the HOV lane privileges. I will most likely buy a early 2000 CNG civic as a commuter beater just so I can get the HOV lane access. You can find them on craigslist for a few grand. There's a CNG station down the block from my house. I think it will work out good.
Dang! Sorry to hear this! Have you already replaced the Cherokee? What did you go with?

Re: people getting rid of their Leafs/EVs/PHEVs and going back to ICEVs

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:43 pm
by cwerdna
turbo2ltr wrote:I will most likely buy a early 2000 CNG civic as a commuter beater just so I can get the HOV lane access. You can find them on craigslist for a few grand. There's a CNG station down the block from my house. I think it will work out good.
Be careful. Per http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... 19#p179304
Devin wrote:Also, the CNG cylinder is only certified for 15 years so after 15 years by law it MUST be replaced.
If it hasn't been replaced...

Re: people getting rid of their Leafs/EVs/PHEVs and going back to ICEVs

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:25 pm
by turbo2ltr
jhm614 wrote:Dang! Sorry to hear this! Have you already replaced the Cherokee? What did you go with?
A 2016 Ford Police Interceptor Utility. :D
It's missing some creature comforts, but it also has a lot of room for my ham radios, and I got (what I think) is a smoking deal. $24,500. Regular explorers start at $32k. I like it a lot better than the Jeep.. lets see if it lasts to 170k like the jeep does.

Be careful. Per viewtopic.php?t=8119#p179304
Thanks for the info! The tank expiration is something I did find out along the way (luckily before I bought anything) so it will be something I look for when I'm ready to purchase.. I'll have to check out pricing on replacing them.

Re: people getting rid of their Leafs/EVs/PHEVs and going back to ICEVs

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:31 pm
by turbo2ltr
DaveinOlyWA wrote:I got mine for zero down, $245.99 a month
Dang, thats pretty low. I think I'm paying $360 on this one. Well when I bring it back in the next couple weeks, we'll see how just how willing they are to get me in a new one... Maybe I won't give it up just yet.

Re: people getting rid of their Leafs/EVs/PHEVs and going back to ICEVs

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 3:54 pm
by DuncanCunningham
turbo2ltr wrote: I can't afford two car payments (I'm single).
ha ha ha ha.. sorry I read that I almost spat my drink out on the laptop... if you think you've not no money now, do not get married, its not a money multiplier, I can assure you of that (unless you count fractions).

Re: people getting rid of their Leafs/EVs/PHEVs and going back to ICEVs

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 9:19 pm
by turbo2ltr
DuncanCunningham wrote:
turbo2ltr wrote: I can't afford two car payments (I'm single).
ha ha ha ha.. sorry I read that I almost spat my drink out on the laptop... if you think you've not no money now, do not get married, its not a money multiplier, I can assure you of that (unless you count fractions).
Bahaha, I see the err in my thinking: Two income family != more money. Good point. lol.