edatoakrun wrote:Back on-topic, More hints (from a source with significant Japanese connections) about Nissan's CES reveal, as reported below.
I don't expect to be disappointed, if a substantially new BEV or BEVx with an improvement in efficiency over the LEAF gen one, close to the efficiency of the world-leading Ioniq BEV is announced, and with timely ~2018 MY deliveries.
As also has been hinted at previously, Whenever the Gen 2 LEAF is announced, I believe it probably will have a 30 kWh total base pack, with a somewhat higher kWh, (I'd guess between 40 and 50 kWh total) optional.
Which one I'd choose would depend on the variable price and efficiency of each option...
Using stats from Nissan xStorage
the capacity of the next gen AESC battery is estimated by Pedro at ~37.5 kWh
(And, IMO, that's available,
capacity, and likely ~41.5 kWh total.
I think Pedro may be in error when he assumes the figures he reports ("storage capacity") are total
I think current 24 kWh
LEAF packs may have ~23.4 kWh (on average) available
, not ~23.4 kWh total
as Pedro reports.
2013 LEAF with ~500 miles on them averaged ~24.2 kWh total capacity in AVTA tests, a significant increase over the lower capacity packs in 2011 and 2012 LEAFs:https://avt.inl.gov/vehicle-button/2013-nissan-leaf
I would not be surprised if continued incremental improvements over the last four years mean the most recent 24 kWh
LEAF packs manufactured would have shown ~26 kWh total, and ~23.4 kWh available, on average, if they were tested shortly after manufacture.
http://pushevs.com/2016/12/23/eaton-nis ... -capacity/
Eaton Nissan xStorage reveals future battery capacity
BY PEDRO LIMA · DECEMBER 23, 2016
We can see a 60 % battery capacity improvement for 2017...
While it’s still unknown if the new battery cells will have their weight and volume unchanged, it’s very probable, this means an energy density increase to 507 Wh/L and 251 Wh/kg, not bad for a pouch cell.
Here you have it, you can expect 37,44 kWh capacity for the new battery, this is a bit disappointing since the first information I got months ago was that the facelifted Nissan Leaf would get at least 41-42 kWh of usable battery capacity.
Yet, the Hyundai IONIQ Electric proved us that battery capacity isn’t everything. What cool features do you think Nissan has reserved for the facelifted Leaf unveil?