VitaminJ
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Re: Did all 2013 and newer SV's have QC and battery heater?

Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:01 am

I bought mine 3 weeks ago for $9000 out the door, no rebates or anything.
2013 Ocean Blue SV w/ QC and LED
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LeftieBiker
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Re: Did all 2013 and newer SV's have QC and battery heater?

Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:03 pm

Also note at some point Nissan dropped the rear seat heaters(and maybe steering wheel heat??) on lower trim models. This was not the case at least up to '14, not sure about after that.


The front seat heaters and wheel heaters are found on all Leafs, all trim levels, after 2011. They'd better not monkey with that!
2013 "Brilliant Silver" SV with Premium Package and no QC, and 2009 Vectrix VX-1 with 18 Leaf cells.

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jjeff
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Re: Did all 2013 and newer SV's have QC and battery heater?

Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:05 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
Also note at some point Nissan dropped the rear seat heaters(and maybe steering wheel heat??) on lower trim models. This was not the case at least up to '14, not sure about after that.


The front seat heaters and wheel heaters are found on all Leafs, all trim levels, after 2011. They'd better not monkey with that!

Then it must be the rear seat heaters that aren't standard(or maybe even available??) or later S models :x IMO they probably did that just to force people to upgrade to the SV or SL models! I know rear seat heaters and heated steering wheel was a big selling point to me and was happy even the base S model came with them :) to me it was really a selling point on getting the Leaf.
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Dooglas
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Re: Did all 2013 and newer SV's have QC and battery heater?

Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:19 pm

sendler2112 wrote:Any northern USA lease turn in 2013 Leaf with 30,000 miles will have similar battery capacity remaining and be quite a bargain for an SV at $8,500. I won't have the luxury of running Leafspy first but feel confident they will all be about the same in this area. At this cheap buy in, purchasing a new battery for $6,000 3-4 years down the road still makes the car a much better value than a 2017.
I recently obtained a new 2016 S30 for $16,000 after tax rebate. Considering that the older Leafs can not be upgraded to the 30 kWh battery, I'm not sure I entirely agree with your math.
2013 Leaf SV - lease ended, 2016 Leaf S30

sendler2112
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Re: Did all 2013 and newer SV's have QC and battery heater?

Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:02 pm

I can't get anywhere near your price. The best offer I could find on a 2016 last December was the straight up Nissan offer which was lease then buy and would've had me at $20,500. The 2017's have the same. NY is rumored to have $2,000 tax credit for this year but we won't know for sure until April. That still makes it $18,500.
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A 2013 with 30,000 miles for $8,500. Drive it till 70,000? and put a $6,000 battery in it to get you to 110,000 miles of ownership and 11 years of ownership for $14,500. Cheaper than buying a new Leaf.
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Except that there is a good chance that every 30kWh battery will end up getting a capacity warranty replacement judging by the early feedback on the other thread because of the extended warranty. Depending on where they make the bars corrolate. That would swing it the other way if you drive a lot and wanted to keep the car for 20 years.
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Here is the current deal:
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Excludes taxes, title, and license. $1,999 initial payment required at consummation. (Includes $1,770 consumer down payment, $229 first month payment.) (INCLUDES $12,000 manufacturer's rebate applied to $229/Month lease. Offer valid only when financed through Nissan Motor Acceptance Corporation.) Subject to residency restrictions.

2017 LEAF S Trim Lease model 17017 subject to availability to well-qualified lessees through Nissan Motor Acceptance Corporation. $31,530 MSRP incl. destination charge. Net capitalized cost of $16,739 includes a $595 non-refundable acquisition fee. Dealer contribution may affect actual price set by dealer. Monthly payments total $8,244 At lease end, purchase for $8,513, plus purchase option fee up to $300 (except KS & WI), plus tax, or pay excess wear & use plus $0.15 per mile for mileage over 12,000 miles per year. Lessee is responsible for maintenance and repairs. A disposition fee is due at termination of lease term. No security deposit required. Must take delivery from new dealer stock. See participating dealer for details. Offer ends 01/31/2017.

SageBrush
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Re: Did all 2013 and newer SV's have QC and battery heater?

Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:39 am

sendler2112 wrote:What did you end up paying not including rebates?
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Unless I pay full retail of $11,000 at the local dealer, unfortunately I have none to choose from in my area so will be buying sight unseen from out of state. Other than the normal cosmetic and crash evaluations that my wholesale buyer can perform at the auction. Which will save me from driving 250 miles down to South Jersey/ DC area used car lots and shipping or road tripping it back.
I also advise caution in presuming that the cars will have similar battery capacities.

I ended up buying OOS from a broker in California who provides LEAFSpy data. I paid $8300 for an immaculate 24S with like-new (64 Ah) battery capacity.
2013 Model 'S' with QC & rear-view camera
Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California with 63.9 Ahr after 22k miles
Car is now enjoying an easy life in Colorado

Dooglas
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Re: Did all 2013 and newer SV's have QC and battery heater?

Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:02 am

sendler2112 wrote:Except that there is a good chance that every 30kWh battery will end up getting a capacity warranty replacement judging by the early feedback on the other thread because of the extended warranty. Depending on where they make the bars correlate.
Seems like Nissan is likely to know more about battery life and durability than we do. They have said that the 30kWh batteries use modified chemistry and reconfigured cell arrangement. Extending the battery capacity warranty to 100,000 miles or 8 years, strongly suggests that they expect the battery to typically last longer.
2013 Leaf SV - lease ended, 2016 Leaf S30

sendler2112
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Re: Did all 2013 and newer SV's have QC and battery heater?

Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:14 am

It is all new (to Nissan) NMC chemistry. They finally abandoned the ultra safe Mn chemistry to get the much greater capacity by blending some Nickel and Cobalt. And the early reports are not looking any more promissing than the old battery. I think they were way over optimistic on the service life of the new battery chemistry and will end up replacing almost every one of them before 100,000 miles. Depending on the relationship of the bars to the actual percentage of loss. If the replace at 62% as they have been doing, that is going to be a lot of batteries. See the thread.
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