sendler2112
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Did all 2013 and newer SV's have QC and battery heater?

Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:00 am

I'm getting ready to send my buyer to the auction. Did all 2013 SV's come with a quick charge port? Battery heater? Heat pump, heated steering wheel, alloy wheels? So it would be safe for me to just tell him to get a 2013 or newer Leaf with alloy wheels.

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Re: Did all 2013 and newer SV's have QC and battery heater?

Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:06 am

They all came with all of those items except QC - that was optional, and mine doesn't have it. If you make a generic request, remember to specify "SV" as the S won't have several of those. QC was also an option on the S, not standard. If the car (SV) doesn't have Premium Package with the 4 camera system, it may not have a backup camera at all - that was another option in '13.
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Re: Did all 2013 and newer SV's have QC and battery heater?

Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:40 am

I believe they made the cold weather package standard in 2012 for all models and that included the battery heater. The 2011s could get the cold weather package as an option about mid-year, but not initially. I am not sure the 2011s with a cold weather option had a battery heater.

If you live in a cold weather climate, the S model should be avoided as it doesn't have the heat pump.
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Re: Did all 2013 and newer SV's have QC and battery heater?

Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:31 am

LeftieBiker wrote:They all came with all of those items except QC - that was optional, and mine doesn't have it. .

Good to know. This is as much a hobby and green statement for me as well as transportation. I would never "need" QC on a daily basis but would miss not being able to play with it once in a while. Assuming we actually ever get any quick chargers in our area. Along the thruway perhaps. I also have to have the battery heater which I assume became standard at some point.

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Re: Did all 2013 and newer SV's have QC and battery heater?

Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:22 am

sendler2112 wrote: I also have to have the battery heater which I assume became standard at some point.

Yes by '12 the battery heater was standard on all Leafs and remain that way to this day.
Personally I wouldn't be afraid of a S model with the QC(and upgraded charger package) but I seem to be in the minority. Also note at some point Nissan dropped the rear seat heaters(and maybe steering wheel heat??) on lower trim models. This was not the case at least up to '14, not sure about after that.
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Re: Did all 2013 and newer SV's have QC and battery heater?

Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:56 am

jjeff wrote:Personally I wouldn't be afraid of a S model with the QC(and upgraded charger package) .

Agree. The loss of the heat pump won't make a huge difference to my average energy efficiency since I am 80% highway at 65 mph and use a lot of energy just to move down the road. But I have to have the steering wheel heater to economize and the bigger charger. And want to be able to play with quick charge going forward. I thought I could make it easy on my buyer to just get an SV and automatically get everything I wanted but apparently he will still have to look under the charge door. I also wouldn't mind having the additional online features of the premium package. There should also be 14"s heading to the auction by now but it seems strange that even though they outsold 13"s, there are so far none showing up.

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Re: Did all 2013 and newer SV's have QC and battery heater?

Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:24 am

sendler2112 wrote:I thought I could make it easy on my buyer to just get an SV and automatically get everything I wanted but apparently he will still have to look under the charge door. I also wouldn't mind having the additional online features of the premium package. There should also be 14"s heading to the auction by now but it seems strange that even though they outsold 13"s, there are so far none showing up.


SL should have everything (13s might not have backup cameras without premium package). With the SV you can tell if it has quick charge just by looking at the headlights, since the LED headlights came in the same package (the LEDs have three "levels" inside instead of the two "levels" that the standard lights do). The 14 model year was really short. And by "additional online features of the premium package" do you mean Carwings? That's a standard feature of all SV and SL models and is tied to having navigation (if it has Nav, it has Carwings). Note that for 2014 and earlier you have to pay $199 to get the TCU replaced with one that still works after AT&T shut down their 2G network this year. 2015s get that upgrade for free and 2016s and later don't need it.

I also wouldn't buy a leaf without running LeafSpy on it. At the very least you need to see the number of bars on the battery meter on the dash and assume that the car has one less bar than listed since it could lose the current bar at any time. I bought a 2015 SV with 22,000 miles that was already down to 95%, but I've seen people pick up 2013s with comparable mileage with between 97% to 80% health (or less).

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Re: Did all 2013 and newer SV's have QC and battery heater?

Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:46 am

Any northern USA lease turn in 2013 Leaf with 30,000 miles will have similar battery capacity remaining and be quite a bargain for an SV at $8,500. I won't have the luxury of running Leafspy first but feel confident they will all be about the same in this area. At this cheap buy in, purchasing a new battery for $6,000 3-4 years down the road still makes the car a much better value than a 2017.

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Re: Did all 2013 and newer SV's have QC and battery heater?

Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:40 am

You might be surprised. I used Leaf Spy on maybe 6 or 7 different cars, all 2013 or 2014 between 19k and 48k miles and the results were all over the place. I bought the best battery I found, and it just happened to have the perfect options package for me :)

Anyway what I saw was interesting, on the low end the 19k mile '13 SL had 54Ah, it showed 12/12 bars but either was about to drop or had been reset. I also saw a 48k mile '13 S that measured 57Ah, that was the highest mileage car I drove. I saw a '13 SV with about 29k and it was 51Ah, it also showed 12 bars so I'm guessing had been reset. The '13 I bought showed 61.8Ah and it has now climbed to 64Ah, it has 29k miles. Interestingly (or maybe it's obvious) the cars I saw that were in the worst shape with worn interior, scuffed rims, dinged and dented paint, etc had worse battery than well-maintained cars. Huh, imagine that!
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Re: Did all 2013 and newer SV's have QC and battery heater?

Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:50 am

What did you end up paying not including rebates?
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Unless I pay full retail of $11,000 at the local dealer, unfortunately I have none to choose from in my area so will be buying sight unseen from out of state. Other than the normal cosmetic and crash evaluations that my wholesale buyer can perform at the auction. Which will save me from driving 250 miles down to South Jersey/ DC area used car lots and shipping or road tripping it back.

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