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Re: Regulatory Rollback on Vehicle Pollution

Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:02 am

LeftieBiker wrote:
DarthPuppy wrote:A lot of cars are made not only to meet the Federal requirements, but also the California requirements as selling cars to the US market and having special versions for California is a marketing nightmare. So if the Feds roll back the standards, the industry may well still dance to California's fiddle at least to some degree. But yes, that will likely slow progress.


The Trump Administration is also about to sue to remove the exemption that allows California and the other CARB states to have stricter standards.

That would likely result in a Paris esc car ban in various cities as that after all has nothing to do with EPA

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Re: Regulatory Rollback on Vehicle Pollution

Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:25 pm

Pretty much anyone can sue for any reason. The real question is will the suit prevail and when will it impact?

There is considerable history that states can regulate to a stiffer standard than established at the Federal level. Can the suit win? Yes. Will it make its way through the courts and have any real impact before 2020? Highly doubtful.

The Federal courts at this point are flooded with liberal justices. So it will likely fail at the lower levels. And even once Gorsuch or whoever is put on the Supreme Court, there are only x number of cases the court hears in any given year. I suspect the Supreme Court is going to be buried with more pressing issues for at least the next 3 years.

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Re: Regulatory Rollback on Vehicle Pollution

Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:42 pm

Via https://www.facebook.com/kit.mcglonegre ... 2004922103 that was shared by a Facebook friend of mine, it mentioned "1. HR 861 Terminate the Environmental Protection Agency".

Sure enough, there is https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-con ... e-bill/861.

An excerpt from the Text tab
To terminate the Environmental Protection Agency.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. Termination of the Environmental Protection Agency.

The Environmental Protection Agency shall terminate on December 31, 2018.

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Re: Regulatory Rollback on Vehicle Pollution

Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:58 pm

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The most offensive, tasteless phrase in use here is "Pulled the trigger." I no longer respond to posts that use it.

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Re: Regulatory Rollback on Vehicle Pollution

Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:03 am

LeftieBiker wrote: The Trump Administration is also about to sue to remove the exemption that allows California and the other CARB states to have stricter standards.

Yes, and California plus the other states with rules tailored after CARB are about to defend their regulatory approach in Court. Some irony in many "blue" states defending States Rights against the centralized regulatory approach of Conservatives. Oh well, that will not be the only spectacle we have to endure in the next few months.
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