SageBrush
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About that 40 kWh Battery

Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:03 am

I want to know if it is a drop-in replacement for the 30 kWh models. If so, it could make the current 30 kWh cars an excellent value.
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Re: About that 40 kWh Battery

Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:20 am

Considering Nissan refuses to put the 30kWh battery packs into 24kWh cars, I doubt they'll put 40kWh packs into 24kWh or 30kWh cars.. Remember, they want to sell you a NEW car, not make your degrading one useful again.
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Re: About that 40 kWh Battery

Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:24 am

^^
On the other hand, they may want to rebuild their tattered reputation.
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Re: About that 40 kWh Battery

Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:57 am

Ravaged reputation? You mean with us early adopters? Nah, they are moving onto new customers who want new cars.

At least the 30kWh packs were going into cars with the same chassis as the 24kWh packs. If they didn't want to make that possible, I doubt there is any chance a larger pack will be made available for any 1st gen LEAF.
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Re: About that 40 kWh Battery

Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:08 am

Another guess?

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Re: About that 40 kWh Battery

Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:10 am

Ask Corr to pick one up from the junkyard in about a year and find out

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Re: About that 40 kWh Battery

Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:18 am

Did Sage Bush even own a Leaf before? Sounds like he hates the Leaf so much yet finds time to peruse the forum and attack anything Nissan.

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Re: About that 40 kWh Battery

Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:01 am

edatoakrun wrote:Anyone found a detailed report on battery improvements, beyond the large increase in density?

Nissan unveils new LEAF; 150-mile range; high-power variant with larger battery in 2019

...The individual cell structure of the laminated lithium-ion battery cells was improved—a 67% increase in energy density versus the 2010 model. Another key engineering improvement for the lithium-ion battery pack is enhanced electrode materials with revised chemistry, resulting in higher power density while contributing to greater battery durability on charge and discharge...

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2017/09 ... -leaf.html
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Re: About that 40 kWh Battery

Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:13 pm

internalaudit wrote:Did Sage Bush even own a Leaf before? Sounds like he hates the Leaf so much yet finds time to peruse the forum and attack anything Nissan.

Yeah, he did, IIRC. He's a bit more rabid than I am towards Nissan, but my disdain started with my Versa which had a failing transmission that they tried so hard to deny was the issue until it finally failed at 45,000 miles (after manifesting problems at 20,000 miles.) Our warranty replacement is starting to have the same issues at the 65,000 mark that our first transmission started having at 20,000 miles. (Oh look, 20,000 miles after being replaced!)
My only hope is that the Versa lasts long enough for me to get my first Model 3 so that it can be my wife's daily driver while I will limp along with the Leaf except for days that I have to be able to travel more than 55 miles in one day, in which case we will swap cars or I will have to drive the Versa. (HORROR!)
When I first got my Leaf, it would get 65 miles a day at 4kWh/mi, but it's lost 2.5kWh in capacity since I purchased it, so it's usable 4 days out of 5 for my commute unless I make exceptional changes to allow for 2 additional charging sessions during the day. (I often have to if doing errands beyond my commute.) It looks like I will lose bar #4 about 2-2 months after my warranty expiration. That does make one a bit irate, especially when combined with the Versa debacle where it will likely fail again at the 75,000 mile mark. If I had a replacement battery in the Leaf, I could delay getting a 2nd Tesla Model 3 until 2020 or so, but as is, I will likely end up being a 2 Tesla household within the next year and a half.
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Re: About that 40 kWh Battery

Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:19 pm

I'm at the reveal in Las Vegas. Invited by Nissan ;)

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