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Re: Portable Charge Cable for 2018 LEAF?

Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:25 pm

Hi maybe this will help:

The NISSAN Genuine L1 &L2 EVSE draws 30 amps continuously while charging the Li-ion battery with AC 220–240 volt outlet. 15 Amps with regular 110/102v 3-prong household.

For the 6.6kw charging in L2, you need to use the supplied EVSE and plug it into a NEMA 14-50 (dryer-type) outlet. The adapter takes it down to a 110/120v outlet size.

This Nissan EVSE L1/L2 comes standard with the SL in USA, and all versions (S/SV/SL) in Canada. Not sure about EU.

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Re: Portable Charge Cable for 2018 LEAF?

Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:35 pm

kennethbokor wrote:Hi maybe this will help:

The NISSAN Genuine L1 &L2 EVSE draws 30 amps continuously while charging the Li-ion battery with AC 220–240 volt outlet. 15 Amps with regular 110/102v 3-prong household.

For the 6.6kw charging in L2, you need to use the supplied EVSE and plug it into a NEMA 14-50 (dryer-type) outlet. The adapter takes it down to a 110/120v outlet size.

This Nissan EVSE L1/L2 comes standard with the SL in USA, and all versions (S/SV/SL) in Canada. Not sure about EU.

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Thanks for adding the diagram Ken. There are a couple of problems with the text though:

1. It should only draw 12 amps on a regular 120V outlet
2. "Dryer-type" shouldn't really be applied to a NEMA 14-50 outlet - this language sparked some earlier discussion in this thread. Dryers are typically on 30-amp circuits, using a NEMA 14-30 outlet or the older 10-30. A device like the EVSE that draws 30 amps continuously shouldn't be used on a 30-amp circuit. Descriptions for the 14-50 outlet that fit its more common uses include "RV-type" or "Range-type".
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Re: Portable Charge Cable for 2018 LEAF?

Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:08 pm

kennethbokor wrote:Hi maybe this will help:

The NISSAN Genuine L1 &L2 EVSE draws 30 amps continuously while charging the Li-ion battery with AC 220–240 volt outlet. 15 Amps with regular 110/102v 3-prong household.

For the 6.6kw charging in L2, you need to use the supplied EVSE and plug it into a NEMA 14-50 (dryer-type) outlet. The adapter takes it down to a 110/120v outlet size.

This Nissan EVSE L1/L2 comes standard with the SL in USA, and all versions (S/SV/SL) in Canada. Not sure about EU.

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It definitely looks like that male cord cap has "L for laundry" instead of a vertical prong. (Tail end)
Big mistake on Nissan's part if this is the case 14-30 plug is rated for 30A but not the breaker feeding it (only 24A cont.) Should be a 14-50.
Also if they have increased the 120V L1 to 15A cont. (1800W) the adapter should be equipped with a 5-20 male.
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Re: Portable Charge Cable for 2018 LEAF?

Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:19 pm

Pretty sure that’s just a shadow on the prong - multiple sources say it’s a 14-50.
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Re: Portable Charge Cable for 2018 LEAF?

Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:36 pm

I can't believe how long this thread is and how many times the same info is being repeated.

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Re: Portable Charge Cable for 2018 LEAF?

Fri Mar 16, 2018 7:39 pm

I have just taken procession of my 2018 Leaf. I have checked out the charge cable. It has a 14-50 Plug on it.
It will only work in 50 Amp plug for RV or Ranges, not dryers.

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Re: Portable Charge Cable for 2018 LEAF?

Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:06 am

rparry51 wrote:I have just taken procession of my 2018 Leaf. I have checked out the charge cable. It has a 14-50 Plug on it.
It will only work in 50 Amp plug for RV or Ranges, not dryers.

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That’s funny.

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Re: Portable Charge Cable for 2018 LEAF?

Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:11 am

Aren’t typos funny. I do miss my BB keyboard

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Re: Portable Charge Cable for 2018 LEAF?

Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:33 am

A quick question.
Does anyone knows how long the overall 2018 EVSE is?
I'm trying to figure out where to install the power outlet so I have enough distance to my car.
My car usually parks second in driveway behind my wife's van so I'm not sure it will be long enough.

Also I can't find any useful information on 14-50 outlet wiring on this board and a lot of the information on here is misleading too so here is little information for people who wants to install it themselves.

If you are looking for an outdoor outlet you can buy RV outdoor outlet box like this one
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000BQWP ... ref=plSrch
(not an affiliate link) and install it outside of your house.
For 2018 Leaf you need to bring 3x 8awg copper wires. 2 are for power and one green for grounding though that one can be smaller 10awg. 4th white wire (middle one) is not needed if you use it only for charging the Car. It's not used. This set up requires 2 pole 40A breaker since any residential breakers can continuously only run on maximum 80% of rated capacity.
Alternatively you can run 6awg wires and install 50A breaker to future proof your installation if you ever buy car that charges at up to 40 amps.

One more thing I would like to point out.
If you live in north America you don't have 240V in your residence as I see referenced to all the time on this board.
What you have is 120V/208V
There's no such thing as 230V or 240V. Industrial plants or some businesses may have transformers installed for that voltage as it may be required by certain equipment.

Also I just registered to write this but will be more active in future. I ordered my Leaf 2 days ago and can't wait to bring it home 8-)

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Re: Portable Charge Cable for 2018 LEAF?

Fri Mar 23, 2018 3:02 pm

mike99ca wrote:A quick question.
Does anyone knows how long the overall 2018 EVSE is?
I'm trying to figure out where to install the power outlet so I have enough distance to my car.
My car usually parks second in driveway behind my wife's van so I'm not sure it will be long enough.

Also I can't find any useful information on 14-50 outlet wiring on this board and a lot of the information on here is misleading too so here is little information for people who wants to install it themselves.

If you are looking for an outdoor outlet you can buy RV outdoor outlet box like this one
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000BQWP ... ref=plSrch
(not an affiliate link) and install it outside of your house.
For 2018 Leaf you need to bring 3x 8awg copper wires. 2 are for power and one green for grounding though that one can be smaller 10awg. 4th white wire (middle one) is not needed if you use it only for charging the Car. It's not used. This set up requires 2 pole 40A breaker since any residential breakers can continuously only run on maximum 80% of rated capacity.
Alternatively you can run 6awg wires and install 50A breaker to future proof your installation if you ever buy car that charges at up to 40 amps.

One more thing I would like to point out.
If you live in north America you don't have 240V in your residence as I see referenced to all the time on this board.
What you have is 120V/208V
There's no such thing as 230V or 240V. Industrial plants or some businesses may have transformers installed for that voltage as it may be required by certain equipment.

Also I just registered to write this but will be more active in future. I ordered my Leaf 2 days ago and can't wait to bring it home 8-)

Mike




You have 120/240V in a residence NOT 208, 240V is two opposite legs of 120V. 208 is commercial power not residential , you have two separate legs of 120V to your home. You don't need a neutral and you need wire for a 50A circuit based on your run length and a 50A breaker to have a 50A outlet by code. This is a 20% derate for the 50A outlet to a 40A continuous load.

This illustrates why people should hire a licensed and qualified electrician as there is so much poor information even with some in the trade. Additionally your panel does not just have to have two breaker slots for the load it needs to be rated for the full outlet load based on the other loads in the panel, etc, etc, etc.

Hire a professional:)

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