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Re: We need a portable 240v EVSE

Mon May 09, 2011 5:47 am

garygid wrote:NOT using this HUGE existing infrastructure is ... totally STUPID!


Not totally stupid. There is a reason for it. For starters, to use a dryer socket or hot-water heater socket, would require unplugging that device and plugging the car in. That would mean many plugs/unplugs every day. The sockets are not designed for that. Also, many dryers are located inside of the house, which would require running a long cable outside to charge the car. Not smart.

RIGHT NOW, we need to tell Nissan, local building departments, and legislators that we DENAND the right to plug-in. If we did not understand and accept that there are safety issues with fueling, we would not fuel our gas cars.


That is insane. I am not going to demand a right to something I know is not a right. If somebody doesn't want me to plug my car into an outlet, that is their right. I am not going to attempt to take away other people's rights to satisfy my own in this case. So you are saying that if you drive a gasoline car that you should demand the right to fill up at private gas pumps at rental car facilities, etc.. It is the same concept.

So, BEFORE you put money down or pay for a Leaf, demand a 240v plug-in EVSE that can work at AT LEAST the popular 15, 30, and 50-amp sockets.


Now you are dreaming. Everyone on this forum wants a leaf already and is willing to live with the design as-is. Nissan has a waiting list a mile long and has no incentive to change this to please a minority of people like you.

Honestly, I'm fine with the design of the level-1 EVSE that Nissan includes. I believe their goal was to produce something reliable and safe until something new can be designed. I think that 3rd party companies will step in very soon (leviton?) with a 220V product that will do exactly what you want (and what I want). That is the great thing about market driven capitalism, somebody else will fill in the gaps.

Us early adopters are not stupid. We are well aware of the initial limitations of these cars and that currently there are few places to plug in. We also know that will change over time but by purchasing a Leaf now we recognized we are willing to live with the shortfalls in the meantime.
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Re: We need a portable 240v EVSE

Mon May 16, 2011 9:50 pm

Just send in you 120V EVSE to evseupgrade. It's an elegant and sufficient solution to your request.
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Re: We need a portable 240v EVSE

Mon May 16, 2011 10:31 pm

Any news on UL approval of SPX 32amp EVSE?

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Re: We need a portable 240v EVSE

Tue May 17, 2011 12:11 pm

BudRaymond wrote:Just send in you 120V EVSE to evseupgrade. It's an elegant and sufficient solution to your request.


I keep the Quick220V + modded EVSE in the trunk, so 220V (or should I say 240V) charging is not a problem virtually anywhere IF I can find the two in-phase 120V outlets :)

I used this combination and it took approx. same time to charge as my installed AV EVSE.

IMO, I hope one day they can convert all those paddle and AVCON public chargers to J1772.
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Re: We need a portable 240v EVSE

Tue May 17, 2011 12:25 pm

surfsnow wrote:I keep the Quick220V + modded EVSE in the trunk, so 220V (or should I say 240V) charging is not a problem virtually anywhere IF I can find the two in-phase 120V outlets :)
IMO, I hope one day they can convert all those paddle and AVCON public chargers to J1772.
Technically, "two out of-phase 120V outlets".

The Avcons should be converted to J1772 and there are some programs in process to do some of them. As for the Small Paddle Inductive (SPI) chargers, there's still a few hundred RAV4 EVs on the road that use them. In the longer term, say 5 years as the 2002 era RAV4 EVs are dissapearing, then the SPI chargers should be converted to J1772.
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Re: We need a portable 240v EVSE

Tue May 17, 2011 12:29 pm

Clipper Creek's LCS-25 LCS-20 LCS-15 L2 240V Charger (EVSE) just became available.
$995

The number in the model number is the circuit ampacity. So the charge currents are 20, 16, 12A respectively.

See the updates in this thread:
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Re: We need a portable 240v EVSE

Tue May 17, 2011 2:17 pm

ElectricVehicle wrote:Technically, "two out of-phase 120V outlets".

The Avcons should be converted to J1772 and there are some programs in process to do some of them. As for the Small Paddle Inductive (SPI) chargers, there's still a few hundred RAV4 EVs on the road that use them. In the longer term, say 5 years as the 2002 era RAV4 EVs are dissapearing, then the SPI chargers should be converted to J1772.


Sorry for the mistake... thanks for the correction. :)
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Re: We need a portable 240v EVSE

Sat May 28, 2011 2:29 pm

I just got a call from SPX that the 32amp Power Express portable EVSE is now available to order. $745 + tax + shipping, and 60 day estimated delivery. Problem is I (you) can't order without a Volt VIN# ???

So if there’s a Volt in your garage, call now! Operators are standing by 877-805-3873

http://servicesolutions.spx.com/FullDis ... ?id=26&l=1

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Re: We need a portable 240v EVSE

Sat May 28, 2011 3:02 pm

KeiJidosha wrote:I just got a call from SPX that the 32amp Power Express portable EVSE is now available to order. $745 + tax + shipping, and 60 day estimated delivery. Problem is I (you) can't order without a Volt VIN# ???

So if there’s a Volt in your garage, call now! Operators are standing by 877-805-3873

http://servicesolutions.spx.com/FullDis ... ?id=26&l=1
About time but why on earth do I need a Volt to order one? I thought the Volt restricted one was different model.
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Re: We need a portable 240v EVSE

Sat May 28, 2011 3:06 pm

Discussion of the SPX 32A L2 is here viewtopic.php?f=26&t=1442
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