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OrientExpress
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LEAF+ press release

Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:36 pm

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Re: LEAF+ press release

Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:17 pm

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Re: LEAF+ press release

Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:52 am

This is good, however, when they come out they will be top dollar, and We don't know how the early ones will defect-less...

Tsiah
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Re: LEAF+ press release

Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:11 am

I can't believe they did 62kWh in such a small package with the same cells that have had problems with no thermal management... I definitely won't be buying one.

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Re: LEAF+ press release

Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:41 am

At least they gave it a decent infotainment screen and fixed the goofy stretched aspect ratio.

No rain sensing wipers, telescoping wheel, or battery cooling are huge misses though.

This car will need to be a very strong value proposition to sell in meaningful numbers in the US.
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Re: LEAF+ press release

Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:58 am

Nissan is being stubborn on the battery management thing. Looks like they would admit their mistake and fix it. Long term, that's going to continue to hurt them. Hopefully they are working on a larger battery pack (liquid cooled) to compete with VW and BMW i the next couple of years.

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Re: LEAF+ press release

Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:03 pm

theothertom wrote:Nissan is being stubborn on the battery management thing. Looks like they would admit their mistake and fix it. Long term, that's going to continue to hurt them. Hopefully they are working on a larger battery pack (liquid cooled) to compete with VW and BMW i the next couple of years.


Either that, or they know more than most of the critics. There is no comparison of today's LEAF reliability and value with the 2011 LEAF. Just reading the enthusiasts blogs show that the issues with the early cars have been addressed. Lots of opinions but no issues.
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Re: LEAF+ press release

Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:07 pm

I hope that the liquid cooling thing is done soon with future Nissan cars.. I have seen the design of the Chevy Bolt, and it is not that hard to add. All it is - A thin wafer of a "radiator' that sits below the battery and makes contact. It is part of the air conditioning system and has common antifreeze as the coolant.. Really nice design on the BOLT!!

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Re: LEAF+ press release

Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:48 pm

Up front rumors suggested an air-cooled active cooling system, but not liquid cooling. The two above summaries don't seem to address this.
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Re: LEAF+ press release

Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:59 pm

Dooglas wrote:Up front rumors suggested an air-cooled active cooling system, but not liquid cooling. The two above summaries don't seem to address this.


Given the virtually identical physical size of the pack, and the assertion in at least one of the EV press pieces that there is no active cooling of any kind, I think it's a safe bet that Nissan continues to forge backwards, into the past.
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