DougWantsALeaf
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Re: Apparently the Leaf is not a big seller in the US these days

Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:27 am

Model 3 and Leaf neck and neck in Spain for sales. 1100 and change a piece.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/cincodias. ... 2.amp.html
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jlv
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Re: Apparently the Leaf is not a big seller in the US these days

Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:36 am

WetEV wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:42 pm
At least it doesn't catch fire like a Tesla
My cars were part of a photoshoot today and they were definitely on fire.
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Re: Apparently the Leaf is not a big seller in the US these days

Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:31 am

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:35 am
Leaf reported as best seller at dealerships in Ireland:

https://www.leinsterleader.ie/news/home ... -leaf.html
Irish people have good taste. :lol: :lol:

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Re: Apparently the Leaf is not a big seller in the US these days

Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:39 am

Evoforce wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:30 am
cwerdna wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:19 am
LeftieBiker wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:22 am
The battery grounding plate recall mentions no actual fires, just the hypothetical possibility for one.
I received my notice for this today. It makes no mention of fire.

It says
Due to a manufacturing issue, which has since been corrected, certain LEAF vehicle's lithium-ion battery bonding plates may not meet Nissan internal standards for corrosion resistance. The plates may corrode and in some areas where road salt is extensively used, could break. In rare cases, during vehicle servicing, if both plates break, the battery cover plate is removed and the vehicle is left in READY mode, a technician could be exposed to electric shock if all EV servicing instructions are not followed. Although no such incidents have been reported to Nissan, this voluntary service campaign is being conducted as a preventative measure out of an abundance of caution.
A hypothetical possibility of fire seems to have been invented by Evoforce in one of his earlier replies.
You are hilarious also and trying to mislead. I was told by service that a possible short because of this could lead to fire as well as what you listed. Just because it did not say that in the notice does not mean that it is not possible. After all, Nissan has a bad enough battery reputation. They are not going to put it in writing that a short could lead to fire in their battery... but service was verbally able to tell me this. More power to Nissan for making this service campaign to correct something that could be very bad for BEV's and their adoption. Newer Leafs are apparently not a part of this service campaign.
Then I blame your service advisor for inferring or making something up. If Nissan corporate issued a communication to them about a fire danger, it sure as heck would be in written form to them somewhere.

I posted a story at about the service advisor I spoke with at viewtopic.php?p=562230#p562230 who ended up buying an 8 bar Leaf that dropped to 7. He's been there for at least several years as I recognize him and his name from visits years ago.

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Re: Apparently the Leaf is not a big seller in the US these days

Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:36 am

Just accept that Nissan doesn't want to scare customers or bring on legal woes. It is not that hard to figure it out. Do you really want to escalate this and further scare the general public. I am glad Nissan seems to be getting ahead of any potential problem of their battery shorting.
*2011 Leaf 1 bought 2/28/15 @ 28,000ish mi 10 bar (8 bars @ 11/25/15 @ 37,453 ) (New lizard @ 39,275 mi @ 1/20/2016) Now 52,166 mi.
*Tesla Model S 61,000 mi
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Re: Apparently the Leaf is not a big seller in the US these days

Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:52 am

jlv wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:36 am
WetEV wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:42 pm
At least it doesn't catch fire like a Tesla
My cars were part of a photoshoot today and they were definitely on fire.
Image
Those are hot looking!
*2011 Leaf 1 bought 2/28/15 @ 28,000ish mi 10 bar (8 bars @ 11/25/15 @ 37,453 ) (New lizard @ 39,275 mi @ 1/20/2016) Now 52,166 mi.
*Tesla Model S 61,000 mi
*2011 Leaf 2 bought 4/28/15 @ 24,000ish mi 12 bar (new lizard Dec. 2014 @ 22,273 mi) Now 35,485 mi

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Re: Apparently the Leaf is not a big seller in the US these days

Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:57 am

Evoforce wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:36 am
Just accept that Nissan doesn't want to scare customers or bring on legal woes. It is not that hard to figure it out. Do you really want to escalate this and further scare the general public. I am glad Nissan seems to be getting ahead of any potential problem of their battery shorting.
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My mostly uniformed impression is that this recall is protection for the dumb mechanic and is not a safety issue for an owner. I had the recall done and was able to see the parts and installation. They are metal tabs that act as extra grounding spots between the battery and chassis. It would take a remarkable set of circumstances (read: a REALLY dumb mechanic) to see a dangerous event:

1. Two broken or completely corroded tabs
2. High static electricity build-up in the battery enclosure
3. Disconnect of all the battery bolts holding the enclosure to the chassis, which also act as grounds
4. Complete failure of the cables that ground the battery
5. Disregard for all disassembly instructions

In summary, a potential danger to a person removing the battery from the car who does not have a clue.
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: Apparently the Leaf is not a big seller in the US these days

Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:58 pm

Leaf continuing to crush the market in Ireland!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/insideevs. ... -2019/amp/
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: Apparently the Leaf is not a big seller in the US these days

Sun Aug 25, 2019 1:06 am

US Leaf production capacity expanding.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dnj.com/amp/2059815001
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Re: Apparently the Leaf is not a big seller in the US these days

Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:25 am

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2019 1:06 am
US Leaf production capacity expanding.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dnj.com/amp/2059815001
Not what I read in the linked article.
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