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Re: "D/B" on shifter?

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:02 am
by LEAFer
EVDRIVER wrote:... have a "custom" mode position ...

Integrated with your key fob ! Your spouse's key fob has its own custom settings. So, when you unlock the car with YOUR fob ... you get YOUR settings. :geek:

Re: "D/B" on shifter?

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:08 am
by evnow
It seems to me people demand V10 features in V1.

I think it is more important for Nissan to get the basic things simple and right. More "esoteric" features that "nerds" demand can be catered to in a later version.

BTW, I demand that all ICE cars stop emitting CO2 :twisted:

Re: "D/B" on shifter?

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 12:15 pm
by LEAFer
It wasn't a V1 demand (or even expectation) ... but if Nissan is "listening" it might become a V2 or V3 reality :P

Re: "D/B" on shifter?

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 12:42 pm
by planet4ever
johnr wrote:I don't get the idea behind that "ECO" mode...it's an electric car after all...the manner in which you drive a vehicle determines how "eco" you are, why does an EV need a mode for this? :?

Since I want to drive as "green" as possible I will probably find that I like having ECO on all the time. I want as much regen as I can get, at least when I need to slow down quickly or go down steep hills. I don't want acceleration that forces me back into my seat and stresses my heart. Admittedly I can control the acceleration, but it looks like I can't get maximum regen without ECO.

Re: "D/B" on shifter?

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:02 pm
by Yanquetino
This video review by "Whatcar?" includes a demo and explanation of shifting from "D" to "Eco" at 1:30:



It looks like the driver does indeed "toggle" between the two modes by simply pulling the shifter down.

Re: "D/B" on shifter?

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:50 am
by bruceha2000
garygid wrote:However, that could be a safety issue if one suddenly lost "full-acceleration capability" just as they were trying merge onto the freeway into a line of fast-moving trucks, as often happens here.
I suspect the intelligent Leaf owner wouldn't be hopping on an Interstate when their SOC reads 'empty'.

Re: "D/B" on shifter?

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:23 pm
by bruceha2000
JasonT wrote:I don't see what is wrong with some regen braking happening when you let off the accelerator.
You have not driven a Prius on a regular basis have you. Gary 'complained' in the following post about having to hold very light pressure on the accelerator pedal to coast. That is one feature I REALLY hope Nissan has implemented in the Leaf. A larger dead band would be really nice as he is right, it can be hard to hold.

First, in PriusChat land, Gary's description is referred to as 'gliding', not 'coasting'. The difference is that when 'gliding' there is no power going to the wheels and no drag through the electric motor (regen) slowing the car - only rolling and wind resistance. Coasting implies regen in the Prius, engine drag in ICE vehicles. Both slow the car much more quickly than effectively being in neutral.

What is wrong with coasting regen? Nothing (if you WANT to slow down) but there are conversion losses. The conversion in a Prius is about 80% efficient. For every 100 Watts you generate, only 80 get into the battery and only 64 come out. Every time you slow down using regen you lose potential energy you have paid for with your Leaf battery, in this case 26 Watts.

There is a full mile of my 10 mile commute to work where I can glide - using no gas, using no electricity - at the 40 MPH speed limit. If I could not glide, I would be using gas or electricity unnecessarily. Thus, if the Leaf is not 'glide capable' my 'fuel' use would unnecessarily increase by 10 % and my range decrease by 10%. I can approach lights that are going to turn red in 'glide' making more distance 'free' than if I was regen coasting starting closer to the red light. If you live on the dead flat there is less gain, but the ability to glide would extend the range of a Leaf, perhaps substantially, for many.