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Re: Worldwide Plugin Sales Numbers

Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:41 am

Good month, Nissan sold 1,579 LEAFs, thats up 60%.

...and some shameless self-promotion:

Advertising + Cheap Leases Equals Big Sales Gains For Nissan LEAF. 1,579 Sold In October
http://insideevs.com/advertising-cheap- ... n-october/

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Re: Worldwide Plugin Sales Numbers

Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:12 pm

Proof once again that EV sales ARE price sensitive! If Nissan wants to maintain any kind of momentum going forward that are going to have to continue such deals on the 2013s...

Statik wrote:Good month, Nissan sold 1,579 LEAFs, thats up 60%.
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Re: Worldwide Plugin Sales Numbers

Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:38 pm

TomT wrote:Proof once again that EV sales ARE price sensitive! If Nissan wants to maintain any kind of momentum going forward that are going to have to continue such deals on the 2013s...
Perhaps, but how much of a loss can Nissan afford to take on each LEAF? A long term strategy is nice but at some point they will need to sell the cars at a profit rather than blow them out the door at a big loss.
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Re: Worldwide Plugin Sales Numbers

Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:50 pm

Electric vehicles are a long term play. I think Nissan, and all the electric car manufacturers, need to find the price point that makes the car attractive. Then work like hell to get components of the car to the point where they can make an acceptable margin. But before then, you'll have to sell it for a loss.

It really isnt unlike the Microsofr xbox. Microsoft reportedly was losing a ton on the xbox. They new as the console aged, and components came down in price, they'd make money. But they also knew they'd sell none if the sold it at a profit initially.
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Re: Worldwide Plugin Sales Numbers

Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:35 pm

CarZin wrote:Electric vehicles are a long term play. I think Nissan, and all the electric car manufacturers, need to find the price point that makes the car attractive. Then work like hell to get components of the car to the point where they can make an acceptable margin. But before then, you'll have to sell it for a loss.

It really isnt unlike the Microsofr xbox. Microsoft reportedly was losing a ton on the xbox. They new as the console aged, and components came down in price, they'd make money. But they also knew they'd sell none if the sold it at a profit initially.



This only works if what you put out the door is something that inspires confidence in the early buyers. Nissan started out great, but then when problems with the car surfaced, they have really started to shoot themselves in the foot. They need to address issues quickly so that owners have confidence and will spread the word. Plenty of us that like our cars are not promoting it any longer because of this. No way to make money later if you don't have a base following who will encourage others and repurchase themselves. Prius is a good example. I've owned three, and I'd buy another and I promote it to people who ask about my car. I can't say the same about my Leaf. Unless something changes, I would not buy another nor am I promoting it.
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Re: Worldwide Plugin Sales Numbers

Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:53 pm

palmermd wrote:
CarZin wrote:Electric vehicles are a long term play. I think Nissan, and all the electric car manufacturers, need to find the price point that makes the car attractive. Then work like hell to get components of the car to the point where they can make an acceptable margin. But before then, you'll have to sell it for a loss.

It really isnt unlike the Microsofr xbox. Microsoft reportedly was losing a ton on the xbox. They new as the console aged, and components came down in price, they'd make money. But they also knew they'd sell none if the sold it at a profit initially.



This only works if what you put out the door is something that inspires confidence in the early buyers. Nissan started out great, but then when problems with the car surfaced, they have really started to shoot themselves in the foot. They need to address issues quickly so that owners have confidence and will spread the word. Plenty of us that like our cars are not promoting it any longer because of this. No way to make money later if you don't have a base following who will encourage others and repurchase themselves. Prius is a good example. I've owned three, and I'd buy another and I promote it to people who ask about my car. I can't say the same about my Leaf. Unless something changes, I would not buy another nor am I promoting it.

+1. Nissan has seemingly done everything they possibly could to alienate the early adopter base, their best salespeople. Incredibly stupid of them, and how long can they afford to keep pumping $4,500 per car to dealers in places like California?

Let's see, if they sold 500 cars here last month, that cost them $2.25 million. No one's suggested it was necessary, but even if they'd offered to buy back every single one of the 450 Leafs sold in Arizona for $35k apiece and did so, it would cost them less than $16 million, and they wouldn't have pissed off so many customers and potential customers who formerly supported them. And you have to wonder just how much they're running up in attorney fees fighting the class action suit and others.

Aaargh! It's incredibly frustrating to see a company act so stupidly!
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Re: Worldwide Plugin Sales Numbers

Sat Nov 03, 2012 1:20 pm

One white and one black LEAF were sold in Ireland in October.

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Re: Worldwide Plugin Sales Numbers

Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:42 pm

Saw the following in Green Car Reports today:

"In a first, more than 100 Ford Focus Electric hatchbacks were sold in October: 118 to be specific.

"And in a surprise, Ford also sold 144 of the plug-in hybrid Ford C-Max Energi--earlier than expected--meaning that the company sold more than 250 plug-in cars in a month for the first time ever."
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Re: Worldwide Plugin Sales Numbers

Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:50 am

Ireland (Nov): 4 LEAFs or 0.45% of market

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Re: Worldwide Plugin Sales Numbers

Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:53 am

September wrote:Ireland (Nov): 4 LEAFs or 0.45% of market

Why is the sale so low ? I thought Ireland was going have have all wired up with QC - did that not happen ?
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