krox
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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:18 am

Jim, there are two questions:
1. When will the support for the new Nissan Leaf be added, with a battery of 40 kWh?
2. Will there be full support for Tesla Model S? Why is this trend not developing? I mean the TM-Spy program.

DaveinOlyWA
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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Sun Dec 24, 2017 8:52 am

krox wrote:Jim, there are two questions:
1. When will the support for the new Nissan Leaf be added, with a battery of 40 kWh?
2. Will there be full support for Tesla Model S? Why is this trend not developing? I mean the TM-Spy program.


Yes on #1. check forum, he has already started a thread for 40 kwh pack. As expected since sales won't start until Jan 23, there is not much activity there yet.
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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:01 pm

^^^
'18 Leaf has been on sale in Japan since October 2017.

As for TM Spy, there are threads like https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... ata.63051/ and https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... ads.71717/.

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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:50 pm

cwerdna wrote:^^^
'18 Leaf has been on sale in Japan since October 2017.

As for TM Spy, there are threads like https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... ata.63051/ .


Thanks for the link. Based on post #17 (Jim - LeafSpy), the output resistance calculation from the graphic confirms that Tesla's
output resistance is about 77 mohms versus the Leaf's of about 60 mohms at about 75F. Again, given that, the Tesla battery will
develop more internal heat than the Leaf's at the same moderate speed, i.e. more vehicle weight & more internal resistance.
Under the conditions shown in the graphic, the instantaneous power is about 130kW for 4 seconds (energy - 560kJoules)

johnlocke
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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:38 pm

It's Jan. and I lost another 12 GID's last month. 38083 mi. 53.86AH 67.77 SOH 59.24Hx 246 GID's at full charge. Still showing 10 bars but I expect the 3rd bar to drop any minute now. At this rate I might qualify for a replacement by April. Certainly by June at the latest.
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Turbo3
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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:07 am

krox wrote:Jim, there are two questions:
1. When will the support for the new Nissan Leaf be added, with a battery of 40 kWh?
2. Will there be full support for Tesla Model S? Why is this trend not developing? I mean the TM-Spy program.

The just released iOS version (Dec 19th) of LeafSpy includes support (with some limitations) for the 2018 Leaf (40/60 kWh batteries).

The latest Android test version also includes support for the 2018 Leaf. Still working on updating the Help which takes me some time to do before it can be released to all but the code will be the same. Anyone with LeafSpy Pro can install the test version by just going to this link.

https://play.google.com/apps/testing/com.Turbo3.Leaf_Spy_Pro

krox
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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:57 am

Thank you!

jbuntz
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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:43 pm

johnlocke wrote:It's Jan. and I lost another 12 GID's last month. 38083 mi. 53.86AH 67.77 SOH 59.24Hx 246 GID's at full charge. Still showing 10 bars but I expect the 3rd bar to drop any minute now. At this rate I might qualify for a replacement by April. Certainly by June at the latest.

I am tracking pretty close to yours. 54.17 AH 68.16 SOH 65.23 hx 243 GIDs 14769 mi. Still 10 bars. Cool December has halted the drop for now.
Mfg 11/15 Del 12/16 TX 2016 SL 30kWh,
Date Bar MI GID Ahr SOH
12/23 12 00598 317 68.93 86
05/17 12 05175 324 70.75 89
08/17 11 09245 282 61.68 77
10/17 10 12000 260 57.22 71
01/18 09 15329 244 53.72 68

johnlocke
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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:18 pm

Dropped the 3rd bar today. 54.24AH, SOH 68.24%, Hx 59.68%, 38475 mi. 73 L3, 727 L1/L2. Nissan did the battery check just last week and according to them it's in excellent condition. I just completed my usual 55 mi. commute today and arrived home with 13% charge left and 9 mi. left on the GOM. Pretty soon I'm going to have to charge out in town every day or risk not being able to make it home.
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Valdemar
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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:36 pm

Pathetic, that is significantly worse even than a typical 2011 Leaf. It just doesn't bode well for the 40kwh pack.
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-0CB(66.14AHr)@87.5k/54mo (BBB)
59.7AHr, SOH 93%, 118k miles
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