sendler2112
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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Sat Sep 30, 2017 10:24 am

Ok. I forgot they extended that with the new pack. They will be buying many replacements

DaveinOlyWA
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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Sat Sep 30, 2017 10:44 am

sendler2112 wrote:Ok. I forgot they extended that with the new pack. They will be buying many replacements



I am getting a sneaking suspicion they already knew that.
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SageBrush
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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:31 pm

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
sendler2112 wrote:Ok. I forgot they extended that with the new pack. They will be buying many replacements

I am getting a sneaking suspicion they already knew that.

Coming from you, that sounds hyper-critical. Are you really coming around to accepting the obvious ?

I know that sounds nasty, so I'll mention that I love your EV advocacy. Just not so much the head-in-the-sand approach to Nissan and LEAF deficiencies.
2013 Model 'S' with QC & rear-view camera
Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California with 63.9 Ahr after 22k miles
Car is now enjoying an easy life in Colorado

DaveinOlyWA
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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Sat Sep 30, 2017 9:03 pm

SageBrush wrote:
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
sendler2112 wrote:Ok. I forgot they extended that with the new pack. They will be buying many replacements

I am getting a sneaking suspicion they already knew that.

Coming from you, that sounds hyper-critical. Are you really coming around to accepting the obvious ?

I know that sounds nasty, so I'll mention that I love your EV advocacy. Just not so much the head-in-the-sand approach to Nissan and LEAF deficiencies.


not sure what you are implying but the drastic change of quality in packs that are "supposed" to be the same would be a road we have already traveled.
2011 SL; 44,598 miles. 2013 S; 44,840 miles.2016 S30 (build 10/2016)"low water marks" 24,261.3 miles.363 GIDAhr 80.66Hx95.95%kwh28.1QCs205,L2's 226
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johnlocke
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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:01 am

It's October and I've taken a hit on capacity in the last couple of weeks. Down to 268 GID's. AHr = 59.69, SOH = 73%, Hx = 66.02%. 34527 miles, 58 QC and 645 L1/L2. Lost another 13 GID's last month compared to July and Aug with 8-9 each. Not sure why but I did see the same pattern last year. I expect to lose the third bar around Jan and the fourth bar sometime next summer. If I get below 68% SOH I'm going to have to do a lot more DCQC, Maybe as often as 2-3 times a week. Don't know how that will affect the battery but it probably won't be good.
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Turbo3
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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Sun Oct 01, 2017 11:13 am

The next releases of LeafSpy will increase the resolution of SOH by a factor of 100. SOH will then be displayed as xx.xx%.

I will need feedback on this change as to whether this higher resolution SOH is updated while driving or only changes when the Leaf is first driven. Easiest way to track this is to turn on Logging and then check the log file after a drive.

iOS Version 1.5.23 which is currently awaiting review by iTunes has this change.

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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:39 pm

Turbo3 wrote:The next releases of LeafSpy will increase the resolution of SOH by a factor of 100. SOH will then be displayed as xx.xx%.

I will need feedback on this change as to whether this higher resolution SOH is updated while driving or only changes when the Leaf is first driven. Easiest way to track this is to turn on Logging and then check the log file after a drive.

iOS Version 1.5.23 which is currently awaiting review by iTunes has this change.


Nice! This helps in my case when I have SOH at 100% but 2 of the 5 (Hx, Ahr) are no longer at their "new car" number.
2011 SL; 44,598 miles. 2013 S; 44,840 miles.2016 S30 (build 10/2016)"low water marks" 24,261.3 miles.363 GIDAhr 80.66Hx95.95%kwh28.1QCs205,L2's 226
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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:08 pm

Just back to this forum after a while and am totally shocked to see so many 30kwh packs with such high degradation. All things being equal, these packs should have degraded at a rate 20% slower than their 24kwh counterparts because they cycle through less frequently for the same mileage. It now seems like the temp impact is greater on these cars, likely a result of the increased density of the cells.

I've got a 2015 S with 53K miles. It's a 3.5 year old car and I've still got 12 bars and 262 GIDS at full charge. Seems like this is higher than many 2016 cars?

I'm sorry Nissan but you have completely failed on this battery. There's not a chance in hell that I would ever buy another Leaf from you, especially with the new model doubling down on no TMS.
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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:17 am

tkdbrusco wrote:Just back to this forum after a while and am totally shocked to see so many 30kwh packs with such high degradation. All things being equal, these packs should have degraded at a rate 20% slower than their 24kwh counterparts because they cycle through less frequently for the same mileage. It now seems like the temp impact is greater on these cars, likely a result of the increased density of the cells.

I've got a 2015 S with 53K miles. It's a 3.5 year old car and I've still got 12 bars and 262 GIDS at full charge. Seems like this is higher than many 2016 cars?

I'm sorry Nissan but you have completely failed on this battery. There's not a chance in hell that I would ever buy another Leaf from you, especially with the new model doubling down on no TMS.


Heard about the Guy in OR who has lost about 12-13% in under 15,000 miles?

First thing I would do is eliminate Heat as an excuse.
2011 SL; 44,598 miles. 2013 S; 44,840 miles.2016 S30 (build 10/2016)"low water marks" 24,261.3 miles.363 GIDAhr 80.66Hx95.95%kwh28.1QCs205,L2's 226
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