rickbol
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Leaf Spy Pro doesn't compute a 2016 SV 24kW battery

Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:09 pm

Hello,

I'm enjoying Leaf Spy Pro and its' insight into my recently acquired used 2016 SV. However, evidently my SV is a 24kW battery, and even if I select the 24kW battery size in the "Settings" menu, it still seems to be calculating soc, gids, et al, as if it were a 30kW battery.

Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks,

rickbol
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Re: Leaf Spy Pro doesn't compute a 2016 SV 24kW battery

Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:47 pm

rickbol wrote:Hello,

I'm enjoying Leaf Spy Pro and its' insight into my recently acquired used 2016 SV. However, evidently my SV is a 24kW battery, and even if I select the 24kW battery size in the "Settings" menu, it still seems to be calculating soc, gids, et al, as if it were a 30kW battery.

Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks,

rickbol


It is impossible to tell - please provide the data you are questioning...
Local use only: max. charge 39.0% SoC
Built 05/12, Nissan stockpiled 26 months
07/14: 57km, SOH 96%, AHr 63.37 (new)
07/15: 4032km, 93%, 61.41
07/16: 6628km, 95%, 62.90 (P3227)
07/17: 8742km, 95%, 62.90
07/18: 11355km, 94.8%, 62.22

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Re: Leaf Spy Pro doesn't compute a 2016 SV 24kW battery

Wed Mar 07, 2018 7:18 pm

Battery capacity is measured in kWh, not “kW”.

It doesn't make any sense for a model year 2016 SV to have a 24 kWh battery from the factory. 2016 SV, SL and "S 30" have 30 kWh batteries. How many gids at a full charge? How many AHr visible in the screen that shows all the cell voltages, SOH and Hx?

See specs tab of http://nissannews.com/en-US/nissan/usa/ ... -press-kit and https://www.greencarreports.com/news/11 ... gher-price.

(There was a case of a 30 kWh 4 bar loser where the dealer incorrectly installed a 24 kWh pack as a replacement. He had to go back and get that swapped out.)

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Re: Leaf Spy Pro doesn't compute a 2016 SV 24kW battery

Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:00 pm

Are you sure, Cwerdna? I seem to recall the 30kwh changeover happening during the 2016 MY, not right at the beginning, but my memory is not trustworthy.
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Re: Leaf Spy Pro doesn't compute a 2016 SV 24kW battery

Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:02 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:Are you sure, Cwerdna? I seem to recall the 30kwh changeover happening during the 2016 MY, not right at the beginning, but my memory is not trustworthy.

Quite sure. Model year 2016 SV and SL always came with 30 kWh batteries, at least Nissan intended it that way. S trim was 24 kWh and there was never any official (?) pre-announcement of them upping the '16 S to 30 kWh near end of the '16 cycle.

If there were somehow model year '16 US Leaf SV or SL w/24 kWh batteries from the factory, this would be the first I've heard of it.

For '17, they made them all 30 kWh.

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Re: Leaf Spy Pro doesn't compute a 2016 SV 24kW battery

Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:07 pm

The most likely explanation, then is that the OP has an S that the dealer sold as an "SV" as so often happens in the used car market. It was the S battery I was thinking of, BTW. I had forgotten that the OP called it an SV.
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Re: Leaf Spy Pro doesn't compute a 2016 SV 24kW battery

Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:17 am

I have Leaf Spy screen caps of the vehicle after full charge. I'm just coming back to this forum and I can't remember how to post pics. Do I do that here or at some other site with a link in the post?

GIDs: 282
SOC: 97.7%
394.5V
AHr: 61.79
SOH: 77.74%
Hx: 75.41%,

Thanks :oops:

rickbol
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Re: Leaf Spy Pro doesn't compute a 2016 SV 24kW battery

Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:57 am

You have to link pics from another site - not Photobucket. It looks to me like you have have a 30kwh pack showing, but degraded to 77% and just looking like a 24kwh pack for that reason. But I'm no expert on this...
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Re: Leaf Spy Pro doesn't compute a 2016 SV 24kW battery

Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:13 am

Could a 30kWh pack degraded to 77% show full bars on the dash? I'd expect to see it down a couple of bars at full charge, no?

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2/18/2018

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Re: Leaf Spy Pro doesn't compute a 2016 SV 24kW battery

Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:38 am

The first bar drops at a really low point in the 30kwh cars. Check back in the 30kwh pack thread. I want to say it drops at roughly 75% SOH, but I'm not sure.

EDIT: I just spent a delightful 10 minutes reading in the aforementioned topic. The first bar drops at VERY ROUGHLY 80%. It can be higher, and I suspect that in cold weather it can be lower. You might have an 11 bar car that hasn't registered the bar loss because it's Winter. Is it warm where you live? Nissan seems to have programmed the BMS to wait until warm weather to drop a bar.
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