SageBrush wrote:@GRA said "To date, I don't know of a single for-profit charging company which has to pay a utility for the electricity that's profitable."
Sure, but take note of the differences:
1. These L2 spots are hosted by the city and have built-in discounts to the owner.
As do my local ones which I described.
SageBrush wrote:2. Vancouver differs greatly from the US cities you may be thinking of. Not only do they have a much higher EV penetration rate, they have a relatively large Apt dwelling population that drive EVs.
I live in the S.F. Bay Area, which has the largest % of PEVs of any urban area in the country and the second largest total. Apartments dwellers are certainly problematic for PEVs, but the answer there is primarily EVSEs in semi-private parking lots/garages at home/work, as it's much cheaper than curbside charging, and you can guarantee people will have a place to charge, which isn't the case with public EVSEs open to anyone.
SageBrush wrote:3. Their $2/hour CAD is a good deal compared to driving an ICE, even if no home charging is available. Petrol in BC costs ~ $1 a liter. It would take a 20 km/liter ICE to match the price.
Yes, it's cheaper, thanks to unprofitable pricing. $1 Can/l equals about U.S. $0.77/l, or U.S. $2.91/U.S. gal. The paper claims that the fees will equate to $0.46 to $0.50 Canadian/l for gas. OTOH, they also give themselves this out:
It is not presently known how sensitive EV drivers will be to user fees. As more market
data is obtained and as the number of EVs on the road increases, it is expected that
user fees will be adjusted and that positive ROIs will be achievable during the useful
lifetime of the infrastructure.
We've had 6 years of experience, and I can tell you that it's well known how sensitive EV drivers are to user fees here, as my local example showed - after all, I believe it was Tony Williams who summarized this as people "just taking the Prius". Further, they describe the order of priority attached to various goals:
The user fee program for City owned and operated EV charging stations will be guided by the
following principles, in order of importance:
2. Ease of Understanding
3. Encourage home use, lowest power use infrastructure
4. Return on investment on infrastructure
5. Public perception of fairness
6. Inexpensive compared to fossil fuels (maintain attractiveness of EVs over ICEs)
As long as Vancouver is willing to subsidize charging by keeping the rates low enough that gas isn't a better deal (but they lose money), they'll be fine. But that has nothing to do with widespread availability of EVSEs everywhere they'll be needed to enable mass market adoption, which is only likely to occur if it can be made profitable (or else with mandates such as Vancouver and other AHJs have adopted requiring all new construction multi-family housing and businesses to have provision for such facilities built in, but that will take decades to have a significant impact).