SageBrush wrote: cwerdna wrote:
No hate. At least you're getting into another EV and helping beta test.
That was a bit of cheap shot, coming from you.
What do you call the 40 kWh LEAF then ? Perhaps a prototype to test the driver assist functions while waiting for a decent battery ?
Ouch! Not intended as a shot, cheap or otherwise.
It's pretty clear the Model 3 was a rush job and it shows judging by the defects (e.g. paint problems, uneven gaps, cars requiring a flatbed), incomplete software and buggy software.
The upside is that those early adopters of Model 3 are helping find bugs in the above and hopefully, in a year or two from now, Model 3's coming off the line and the software updates are much better than now.
And, from the examples I posted at https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... ing.56176/
, it seems pretty clear that Tesla's durability testing and validation are either lacking, or there are manufacturing consistently problems if durability testing and validation are in line w/other major automakers that make reliable vehicles. (e.g. Model S door handles, Model X "FWD" door problems, folks who went thru 7+ drive unit replacements until that problem got under control but we still see some DU complete failures, etc.)
40 kWh Leaf ProPilot Assist is what it is. I don't think Nissan made any promises to extend or add functionality to that for '18 Leafs. It seems the '18 Leaf is feature complete (e.g. didn't ship w/missing missing FM radio, not working w/CHAdeMO at all, missing Bluetooth A2DP streaming functionality, etc.). I don't think the '18 Leaf had this weirdness going on either: https://electrek.co/2017/10/06/tesla-mo ... ery-seats/
No car is perfect, but I can safely say that the '11 Leaf at this point from launch and '18 Leaf seem to be a lot more trouble free than the Model 3.
It is FAR too early to draw any conclusions about the '18 Leaf battery in terms of degradation. We need to wait thru at least 2 summers to see how it holds up.
Side note: This fanboy at https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... st-2590505
Any new production car by any maker is a beta car and those that got their car first because they are employees, owners, or jumped the line by paying a premium are the testers.