RottenMutt wrote: adric22 wrote:
Pipcecil wrote:I would help but I am in a forced electricty provider area (aka a co-op) and have NO choice of electricity company and basicly get gouged on price every day.
I think if I were in that situation, I'd be installing solar panels, wind turbine, etc..
I'm assuming the co-op is Tri County. Their rates are lower then everyone elses so settle down and you don't have to call up every 6 months and change plans.
Nope, its HILCO Electric Co-op. Rates are 6.9 cents per kWh PLUS variable cost of fuel (and a few misc cost like security and lighting). This gives me an average rate of ~12.5-13 cents per kWh. I have NEVER gotten below 12 cents a kWh even when natural gas was cheap. Reliant, TXU, etc. ALL offer flat rates (no fuel or other cost) for 7-9 cents kWh. I know because my sister, brother-in-law, and in-laws all have those same plans as well as its advertised on the "power to choose" website.
In addition, because they are with TXU and/or oncor, they get great rebate programs - solar discounts, heat pump replacement programs, energy efficiency stuff, etc. HILCO? I do get a $75 rebate on HVAC inspection and $200 to replace a full Heat Pump/HVAC system (thats not much considering its $3k+), but thats it really. In addition, HILCO won't buy back solar or wind power if you over generate, that take it as a payment for allow you to have these installations. Wow, so benevolent.
So despite HILCO always touting they have the lowest rates around, its a false rate - they don't include the fuel or other cost in their calculations because it just makes them look better and to "prove" Co-ops are better than competing with other companies and we shouldn't worry about having to choose an electric provider, its just choosen for me because I am not smart enough to make decisions.
So you want to trade places?