mkjayakumar
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Re: Leafs Over Texas!

Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:57 am

Adric22,

You have been driving your Leaf for nearly 15 months now and charge to 100% twice a day, but still have only 12K miles on the Odo ?
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adric22
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Re: Leafs Over Texas!

Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:59 am

mkjayakumar wrote:Adric22,

You have been driving your Leaf for nearly 15 months now and charge to 100% twice a day, but still have only 12K miles on the Odo ?

Where did I mention that I charge to 100% twice a day? I said I charge to 100% every day.
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mckemie
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Re: Texas Level 3 EVSEs

Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:03 pm

adric22 wrote:
I could come closer to seeing the trip between Austin and Houston or Austin and San Antonio. The DF/W area is just too darned far.

Maybe in the future with EV's having real highway ranges of 100 miles, it might be more practical.


I recently made a trip to Houston (just beyound Sugarland) from near Lockhart and back in my 150 mile conversion. We charged overnight in Columbus at an RV campground. RV campgrounds are a GREAT charging source! Since that trip I've acquired a 10kw charger which nearly maxes out 50 amp RV connections and charges my car at a rate of 30-35 miles per hour. Before the new charger, my charge rate was only about 10-15 mph. Similar to our Leaf. With the new charger, I intend to make some touring trips. Drive about 3 hours and charge about 4 hours. Just for fun.
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mkjayakumar
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Re: Leafs Over Texas!

Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:12 pm

adric22 wrote:Where did I mention that I charge to 100% twice a day? I said I charge to 100% every day.


All right. I parsed this to mean that you charge 100% before you start your commute and then 100% in the evening before you start your return trip.


>>> Charged to 100% every day
>>> Charge in the evenings back to 100% using 240V
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Re: Leafs Over Texas!

Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:19 pm

mkjayakumar wrote:All right. I parsed this to mean that you charge 100% before you start your commute and then 100% in the evening before you start your return trip.

>>> Charged to 100% every day
>>> Charge in the evenings back to 100% using 240V


Ahh.. that's good to know. See, actually I do charge twice a day, but since I didn't actually say that I thought maybe you were stalking me. :shock:

I work about 4 miles from home so I usually come home for my lunch hour and plug my Leaf in for 30 to 40 minutes before I head back to work. Not that I need the charge, just that I always prefer to have extra range should I need it. All in all, including trips to my daughters school and errands I'm usually averaging about 20 miles per day.

Incidentally, since all of this capacity loss stuff has come to light I've begun charging to 80% now. I've been doing that the last 2 months or so. But I didn't mention it since it wasn't relevant to the point I was trying to make. But that means I definitely don't miss any chance to charge since I have less range now charing to 80%. I've also been charging on L1 for the last 2 months since we got the Volt since my Wife pretty much drains the Volt every day and needs the L2 more than I do. So hopefully that will also make life easier on my battery. I still have full capacity bars and I'd like to keep it that way. Although truth be told, the Leaf would probably still work for me even if it could only do 25 miles per charge.
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WilsonSATX
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Re: Leafs Over Texas!

Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:10 am

My family of four has been driving our Leaf in San Antonio since March. Ours is black and I've seen a blue one several times, but haven't met any other Leaf drivers yet.

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Re: Leafs Over Texas!

Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:19 am

So am I understanding this correctly? Some of you don't fully charge your Leaf each time? You only charge to 80% because that helps the battery? We only use the L1 charger that came in the backpack in the trunk. We always just plug it in when we get home, then unplug it and go in the morning. It should be htting 100% around 4 AM, then sitting plugged in for a few hours before we go. Should we be managing the charging with Carwings, instead of just plugging and unplugging?

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Re: Leafs Over Texas!

Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:34 am

WilsonSATX wrote:Should we be managing the charging with Carwings, instead of just plugging and unplugging?



If you dont need the range of a 100% charge, i recommend setting the charge timer on the car to charge everyday at 80%, and set the start AND stop time at 12:00am.

Now, any time you plug in, it will charge to 80% for "long life", and if you need more energy, use CarWings, mobile phone app, or physically press the timer override button (located to the left of the steering wheel, top center black button).

When you press that button, when the car isn't plugged in, the top dash center blue light will illuminate steady to indicate the timer has been overridden, but is not plugged in. If the car is plugged in, it will just start charging to 100%.

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Re: Leafs Over Texas!

Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:48 am

WilsonSATX wrote:So am I understanding this correctly? Some of you don't fully charge your Leaf each time? You only charge to 80% because that helps the battery? We only use the L1 charger that came in the backpack in the trunk. We always just plug it in when we get home, then unplug it and go in the morning. It should be htting 100% around 4 AM, then sitting plugged in for a few hours before we go. Should we be managing the charging with Carwings, instead of just plugging and unplugging?
The LEAF owner's manual recommends charging to 80% instead of to 100%, as on page CH-20:
"NISSAN recommends charging the Li-ion battery
using the long life mode to help maximize
the Li-ion battery useful life.
"
"Long life mode" merely means charging to 0% (edit: I meant to say "80%" not "0%"!!!) instead of 100%.
To charge to 80%, you need to use the charging timer: set a timer to charge to 80% instead of to 100%. I set one of the two timers to start at 2am and to charge to 80%.

There is more info in the wiki: "Nissan's Charging Recommendations".
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Re: Leafs Over Texas!

Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:40 am

WilsonSATX wrote:So am I understanding this correctly? Some of you don't fully charge your Leaf each time? You only charge to 80% because that helps the battery? We only use the L1 charger that came in the backpack in the trunk. We always just plug it in when we get home, then unplug it and go in the morning. It should be htting 100% around 4 AM, then sitting plugged in for a few hours before we go. Should we be managing the charging with Carwings, instead of just plugging and unplugging?

Yup. I now have my timer set to charge to 80% from 3:15am to 5:15am on L1. Most days the car stays around 40-50% charged (4-6 bars) and never reaches 80%. Some days I don't plug in since I know I won't be driving. I still find bicycling more enjoyable than driving (well, except maybe in the winter).

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