cdherman
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Location: Kansas City, Missouri

Re: LEAF in Kansas City

Mon Sep 05, 2016 2:50 pm

Well, seems I am buying a new Gunmetal Grey SV 2016 for $26000, out the door. I can break that down if someone desires. Basically, its more than some people are paying on the coasts, but KC has very few Leafs. In fact, this one is coming from Springfield, which limited my negotiation some. Had Fenton Nissan Tiffany Springs had the vehicle on the floor, it might have gone better.

That is $18500 after federal tax rebate. Of course, there's sales taxes, but I never add that in when talking vehicles, as its a local phenomenon.

I am still someone who would rather take my chances with ownership, rather than pay the lease fees to the man and hand over the car in 30 months, or however long......

Now, to sell the 2012 SL. I am going to list on cars.com at $8,500 but I will entertain all offers. Even if I end up getting only 7,500 for it, I am then $11,000 into a new 2016, 30kw bat, long warranty, better heater, better charger etc. Or so goes the delusion........

Anything less than 7.5k and I keep it. At that price, I figure it means its approaching terminally depreciated and the major cost of ownership starts to be the tag and insurance. My brother or someone in family will drive it short distances for 10 years till we've cracked the bones, sucked out all the marrow and its ready for the crusher....
2016 SV 30kwh, 2014 Blue Prius, 2011 Silver Prius, 2005 Subaru Forester X, 1965 F-100
8.2KW GridTie Solar
Sold 2012 SL 42k miles, 10 bars, 12/15/16 for $5999
Kansas City MO

DaveinOlyWA
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Re: LEAF in Kansas City

Tue Sep 06, 2016 7:12 am

cdherman wrote:Well, seems I am buying a new Gunmetal Grey SV 2016 for $26000, out the door. I can break that down if someone desires. Basically, its more than some people are paying on the coasts, but KC has very few Leafs. In fact, this one is coming from Springfield, which limited my negotiation some. Had Fenton Nissan Tiffany Springs had the vehicle on the floor, it might have gone better.

That is $18500 after federal tax rebate. Of course, there's sales taxes, but I never add that in when talking vehicles, as its a local phenomenon.

I am still someone who would rather take my chances with ownership, rather than pay the lease fees to the man and hand over the car in 30 months, or however long......

Now, to sell the 2012 SL. I am going to list on cars.com at $8,500 but I will entertain all offers. Even if I end up getting only 7,500 for it, I am then $11,000 into a new 2016, 30kw bat, long warranty, better heater, better charger etc. Or so goes the delusion........

Anything less than 7.5k and I keep it. At that price, I figure it means its approaching terminally depreciated and the major cost of ownership starts to be the tag and insurance. My brother or someone in family will drive it short distances for 10 years till we've cracked the bones, sucked out all the marrow and its ready for the crusher....


well I think you got a pretty good deal. Did you by chance hear any info on what the lease terms might have been?
2011 SL; 44,598 miles. 2013 S; 44,840 miles. 2016 S30; 13001 miles. 363 GIDs, Ahr 82.34, Hx; 102ish% kwh 28.1 QCs 112
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MobileEV
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Leaf Number: 022612
Location: Kansas City, MO, USA

Re: LEAF in Kansas City

Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:13 pm

Congrats (assuming you've pulled the trigger)!

Sounds like many of us are going the same route. I leased my 2016 SV from Joe Machens in Columbia, MO for $322 per month including tax, $0 down, 36 months.

This is my first lease ever, but I figure if I like the car well enough or rack up too many miles to make the return too expensive, I'll keep it. Residual is under $11 K. So about $21K out the door including tax (and they keep the $7,500, i.e. I don't have to wait a year to get it back) if I end up keeping it. I guess that's the price I pay for not having to have the cash up front. BTW, I have a feeling they will make me an attractive buyout option at the end. By 2019, there will be lots of other choices out there.

Clyde from MAEAA got the benefit of my 2012. I sometimes think I should have kept it for the reasons you mentioned, but the reality is that it's still insurance, registration, personal property, and a car sitting in the driveway.

Yeah, I probably could have gotten a better deal by waiting or negotiating more, but I'm very happy with the product. We rarely charge more than once per day, always run A/C and have plenty of range left.

100+ miles real-world range rules! Still, I unexpectedly had to drive to Lee's Summit from Liberty with a partial charge and used the Rice Rd. HyVee DCQC and by the time I went to return some Shatto milk bottles and hit the head, it was near 80%. Love our charging infrastructure.

The Eco and B mode are nice to have been separated out. Charging time is MUCH faster (twice as fast, in fact :-). The trunk is noticably bigger without the battery box there. I miss a few SL features like auto headlights, LED headlights, etc., but just about everything is better.

Karl
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Karl Bloss
2016 LEAF SV, Brilliant Silver
2012 LEAF SL, Cayenne Red - sold 2016 @ 35K miles
2015 Tesla P85D
10 KW grid-tied solar
Kansas City, MO, USA (in the Northland)

kcev
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Re: LEAF in Kansas City

Thu Sep 15, 2016 2:34 pm

Kansans who drive electric, are interested in electric vehicles or want to see our state lead the way in clean energy usage, we need your voice!

The rapid increase of public charging stations has made Kansas City nationally known as a “the EV mecca of the midwest”, because access to public chargers is essential to viability of a future that doesn’t rely on fossil fuels to power our cars.

However, a recent ruling in Kansas threatens the public’s ability to charge their electric vehicles at places where shop, enjoy days at the park, see baseball games, work and much more. On September 13, The State Corporation Commission of the State of Kansas denied our public utility's application for approval of its network of electric vehicle chargers.

One of the Commission’s reasonings for denying the application is lack of public interest in EVs and lack of demand for commercial charging stations. This is why we need you to speak up if you value a clean energy future. Please consider contacting the commission and tell them about your interest in electric vehicles and the impact that a lack of public charging options would have on you.

The State Corporation Commission of the State of Kansas
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leannekc
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Re: LEAF in Kansas City

Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:12 am

KCEV,

About this ruling, can you provide a link of this ruling that I could link to or quote in my complaint?

thanks

kcev
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Re: LEAF in Kansas City

Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:51 am

Found the complete PDF of the Kansas Commission ruling denying KCP&L's charging network:
http://estar.kcc.ks.gov/estar/ViewFile.aspx/20160913110134.pdf?Id=4b0556f3-425d-4469-8eb1-a105109511ec

Henry
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Re: LEAF in Kansas City

Tue Nov 22, 2016 9:39 pm

I got an email from KCPL today with the subject "Enjoy special KCP&L pricing on a Nissan LEAF". It included the following link with details on how to take advantage of a Special Group Buy Price. If you were waiting for a good deal to pick up a new Leaf 2016 or 2017 this may be it.

http://www.metroenergy.org/index.php/ni ... buy-draft/

You must print this flyer and present it to a Nissan Dealer by January 3, 2017 to take advantage of the offer.
http://www.metroenergy.org/wp-content/u ... final2.pdf
Henry
2015 SL - Pearl White
9.72 kW Grid-Tied Solar
Kansas City, MO

DaveinOlyWA
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Re: LEAF in Kansas City

Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:37 am

Henry wrote:I got an email from KCPL today with the subject "Enjoy special KCP&L pricing on a Nissan LEAF". It included the following link with details on how to take advantage of a Special Group Buy Price. If you were waiting for a good deal to pick up a new Leaf 2016 or 2017 this may be it.

http://www.metroenergy.org/index.php/ni ... buy-draft/

You must print this flyer and present it to a Nissan Dealer by January 3, 2017 to take advantage of the offer.
http://www.metroenergy.org/wp-content/u ... final2.pdf



a 50% off sale!(or more)
2011 SL; 44,598 miles. 2013 S; 44,840 miles. 2016 S30; 13001 miles. 363 GIDs, Ahr 82.34, Hx; 102ish% kwh 28.1 QCs 112
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Henry
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Re: LEAF in Kansas City

Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:39 am

Hello KC Leaf Owners, I was wondering if any of you have tried using a Brake Fluid tester as mentioned in this article to avoid replacing the brake fluid before it is really necessary. http://insideevs.com/nissan-leaf-brake- ... nge-video/

I found several of them on Amazon between $12 and $15 that can test DOT 3, 4, or 5 brake fluid. My Leaf owners manual says my car uses DOT 3 brake fluid.

If any of any have had the brake fluid replaced I am curious to know how much it costs?
Henry
2015 SL - Pearl White
9.72 kW Grid-Tied Solar
Kansas City, MO

cdherman
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Re: LEAF in Kansas City

Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:18 pm

I could not get your video to load for some reason. But I did research this topic ad nauseum a while back, when Nissan started recommending that I get my brake fluid changed.

I bought some of the common "copper test strips" from amazon, but never used them, as I also bought a electrical conductivity tester as well that tests the water content of the fluid. Its the water that leads to corrosion. If you wait till the copper test is positive, the damage is already done. AND, if you have a vehicle with stainless steal lines, the test strips are worthless (my 65 show truck)

I marched around my vehicles, testing the 2014 Prius first (looked great), the 2012 Leaf (also perfect), the 2005 Forester (middle of the road) and the 1965 F100, which had its brakes entirely redone in 2004. The F100 was showing quite a lot of moisture -- I should bleed them and replace all the fluid.

I ended up also flushing out the 2005 Forester as well this past summer, in caution.

I do not think in Kansas City's relatively dry climate, compared to some places, you will need brake fluid flushes every three years. Nissan and a slew of manufacturers are recommending that, as it avoid warranty claims, makes hundred or so bucks for their dealers, and hey, it cannot hurt, RIGHT?

If your Leaf is a 2011 or 12, you MIGHT want to consider it. Or you can test the fluid. I'll gladly test for you -- I live up by Zona Rosa. Just let me know......
2016 SV 30kwh, 2014 Blue Prius, 2011 Silver Prius, 2005 Subaru Forester X, 1965 F-100
8.2KW GridTie Solar
Sold 2012 SL 42k miles, 10 bars, 12/15/16 for $5999
Kansas City MO

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