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Re: Anybody with 2011 or 2012 interested in upgrade to new battery?

Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:31 am

NiallDarwin wrote:Dude, that's a bit harsh. Its pretty easy to miss that h off kWh, frankly its a stupid unit more-or less designed to confuse.


Certainly not nearly as brilliant and elegant a unit as "horsepower", but EV folks are a hardy lot. :lol:
I noticed you're still working with polymers.

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Re: Anybody with 2011 or 2012 interested in upgrade to new battery?

Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:09 pm

I like the SI unit of jewels.
They're shiny, don't leave poop around like horses.
They don't remind me of the time of impending doom:
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Re: Anybody with 2011 or 2012 interested in upgrade to new battery?

Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:41 pm

Not to mention how many cans of sterno a Brit can carry in an hour. (OMG are we back to power?)
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Re: Anybody with 2011 or 2012 interested in upgrade to new battery?

Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:32 am

The leaf modding Ukrainian on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCi8nlJ ... 5EXR4wqMoA
Was able to get a 30kwh powered 2011 leaf by taking the VCM and battery out of a 2016 leaf and putting it in his 2011.

At the moment this is the most complete plug and play upgrade known for the 24kwh leaf.

Nissan said something to the effect of "the 30kwh battery won't work in a 24kwh car" and they are correct.
When our comrade installed the 30kwh battery in his 2011 car and tried to power it up, a whole lot of nothing happened.
You need the 30kwh battery and VCM from a 30kwh car.
Then the car has a 30kwh pack, it knows it has a 30kwh pack and everything works.
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Re: Anybody with 2011 or 2012 interested in upgrade to new battery?

Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:22 am

Oilpan4 wrote:The leaf modding Ukrainian on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCi8nlJ ... 5EXR4wqMoA
Was able to get a 30kwh powered 2011 leaf by taking the VCM and battery out of a 2016 leaf and putting it in his 2011.

At the moment this is the most complete plug and play upgrade known for the 24kwh leaf.

Nissan said something to the effect of "the 30kwh battery won't work in a 24kwh car" and they are correct.
When our comrade installed the 30kwh battery in his 2011 car and tried to power it up, a whole lot of nothing happened.
You need the 30kwh battery and VCM from a 30kwh car.
Then the car has a 30kwh pack, it knows it has a 30kwh pack and everything works.


Or:

1. The 24/30 kWh VCMs only differ in their firmware,
2. The original 24 kWh VCM can be re-flashed,
3. One had access to a Nissan Consult II diagnostic tool, and
4. The 30kWh VCM firmware is downloadable from Nissan (highly unlikely) without an access code,
or the 30kWh VCM firmware can be read-out.
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#2 Leaf SL MY 12/18: 115 Ahrs, 5.5 miles/kWh (average), Hx=98, SOH=99, DOD > 25%, temp < 105F

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Re: Anybody with 2011 or 2012 interested in upgrade to new battery?

Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:43 am

lorenfb wrote:2. The original 24 kWh VCM can be re-flashed,


Wouldn't you need to have the replacement battery ID to do that?

For a new warranty pack, that information comes written to a custom SD card and I'm not aware of anybody being able to replicate that methodology, do it a different way, or even pull the ID from a replacement pack.
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Re: Anybody with 2011 or 2012 interested in upgrade to new battery?

Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:40 pm

I think I agree with all of that.

1, that is the only difference that their appears to be. At the moment it's easier to just snag the VCM form the car that supplied the 30kwh battery.
2 - all, no one knows how to do it independently out side of officially sanctioned, nissan approved work, at the moment.
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Re: Anybody with 2011 or 2012 interested in upgrade to new battery?

Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:37 am

Seems like these folks have done it the easy way:

“Thanks to our battery pairing tool, battery swaps can now be performed by independent repairers in the safest and most efficient method possible. Pairing a battery with our tool after replacement now takes less than 30 seconds – simply insert the tool into the vehicle’s OBDII diagnostics port and press the on button.”

http://evsenhanced.com/products/hv-battery-pairing-tool/
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Re: Anybody with 2011 or 2012 interested in upgrade to new battery?

Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:45 am

joeriv wrote:Seems like these folks have done it the easy way:

“Thanks to our battery pairing tool, battery swaps can now be performed by independent repairers in the safest and most efficient method possible. Pairing a battery with our tool after replacement now takes less than 30 seconds – simply insert the tool into the vehicle’s OBDII diagnostics port and press the on button.”

http://evsenhanced.com/products/hv-battery-pairing-tool/



Yes, it would appear so. And I actually heard about these guys in another thread a couple of days ago. They have some pretty awesome gadgets! I'm not certain I was more than peripherally aware of this one.
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2015 pack on 12/30/15
Tinted windows
Bridgestone Ecopia 422+ tires
L1 EVSE upgrade
FIAMM horns
Superbright LED lighting
2013 sun visors
LED shifter
Heated seats
GT-R map lamp lenses
Altima illuminated door switches

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