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Re: SoCal LEAF & EV Gathering - 7th Year - GC in CofI - 10 Sep 2016

Mon Sep 12, 2016 12:38 pm

Even for many of us on this thread who do not haver Autopilot or a Tesla, News from yesterday on upgrade of radar and Autopilot for those cars that have it is very interesting from engineering perspective.

Tesla blog post

https://www.tesla.com/blog/upgrading-autopilot-seeing-world-radar

Press conference transcript:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiavsjYyIrPAhXLz4MKHbHEBDUQqQIIHTAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Felectrek.co%2F2016%2F09%2F11%2Ftranscript-elon-musks-press-conference-about-tesla-autopilot-under-v8-0-update-part-1%2F&usg=AFQjCNH-ZtajTzdgnGPF4bi6hP72VwY9Cw&sig2=3e8NB0pq3fncCgpEPViR0A&bvm=bv.132479545,d.amc

In next firmware release in a week or two, radar will be enabled as primary, camera secondary. Also using cloud feedback from cars on same road. Too much to summarize. The transcript is is several parts.

The radar has good range resolution, but no angular resolution. It updates 10 times per second, and comparing multiple frames helps raise confidence.

During Q&A, Musk says car with Autosteer On will be safer than having it off, because car will be able to apply emergency braking earlier, because it knows during Atutosteer about trajectories around curves. If this sounds unclear, please read the transcript.
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Re: SoCal LEAF & EV Gathering - 7th Year - GC in CofI - 10 Sep 2016

Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:09 pm

We had 13 at our last meeting, including 4 women and 9 men.
I was getting tired, so I left relatively early, around 11, and made
it home safely ... used steering and speed assist most of the way.
My Heidi "puppy" was really glad to see me.

Next time at GC I need to remember to bring some peanut butter.
Thanks, everyone, for being there.
Hopefully I will be able to get more sleep before our next Gathering.
Cheers, Gary
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Re: SoCal LEAF & EV Gathering - 7th Year - GC in CofI - 10 Sep 2016

Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:28 pm

garygid wrote:... Next time at GC I need to remember to bring some peanut butter.
...

:?:
On toast, or straight up, or something else?

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Re: SoCal LEAF & EV Gathering - 7th Year - GC in CofI - 10 Sep 2016

Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:03 am

From my young years, we always used peanut butter instead of butter on
pancakes, waffles, toast, and such. HTB usually has it out, in some form.
However, I will probably bring a little jar, instead of the Costco size.

On the 17th, I still hope to go to the NDEW event in Long Beach (an inland park).

On the 24th, I need to leave early from HTB in Santa Ana, perhaps 11 AM, to
go to San Diego for a early afternoon celebration with friends.

See you ... somewhere, sometime, I hope.
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Re: SoCal LEAF & EV Gathering - 7th Year - GC in CofI - 10 Sep 2016

Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:10 am

Reminder:
The NDEW Event in Long Beach is tomorrow from 10 to 1, at a park
several miles almost due West of our old Cerritos Hometown Buffet.

Hopefully, I will be there with a functional body and Tesla.
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Re: SoCal LEAF & EV Gathering, Y7 - HTB in SA - 24 Sep 2016

Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:50 am

A few of us (LeafyD, Hilda and I) went to the Goleta Plug in Event yesterday! What an amazing day, drive and group up there! So nice to get away from the "L.A." scene.

A great group of EV's and owners showed up! Afterwards we drove to the Santa Barbara Botanical Gardens and spent the rest of the day there!

All in all, 201mi round trip and nice cool weather! ;)

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Re: SoCal LEAF & EV Gathering, Y7 - HTB in SA - 24 Sep 2016

Tue Sep 20, 2016 3:45 pm

I'm planning to be in Santa Ana on Sat, 24 Sept 2016. Might drive a Tesla Roadster up with JdeMO (for DC fast charging with CHAdeMO stations).

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Re: SoCal LEAF & EV Gathering, Y7 - HTB in SA - 24 Sep 2016

Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:29 am

Tony, it will be nice to see you.

Just 3 days and 31 minutes before our next gathering.
See you all there.
The owner of the Santa Ana HTB and his youngest son might join us.
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Re: SoCal LEAF & EV Gathering, Y7 - HTB in SA - 24 Sep 2016

Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:26 am

Gather in 4 hours and 34 minutes.
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Re: SoCal LEAF & EV Gathering, Y7 - HTB in SA - 24 Sep 2016

Sat Sep 24, 2016 9:21 pm

Boomer and I got to see and ride in the Bolt. A auto magazine writer and his photo crew had a pre-production Bolt to drive for the weekend. They were especially interested in how those of us who have reserved Tesla Model 3s found the Bolt.

Better interior than Volt, comfortable rear seats with good leg room, more than in LEAF. "leather" on higher trim felt like vinyl, definitely not near luxury quality. Biggest disappointment for me was no GPS even with higher trim. Instead the good high-quality central display had a "projection" mode that could display the GPS map from your smart phone.

Best features of car: real good torque, better than LEAF, and real good Regen. The Regen was also adjustable.

Reporter asked for a vote as to how many folks who had reserved a Model 3 (almost all 20 something present had), would now consider a Bolt after seeing it. Only one hand went up. Boomer said he might convert on of his two Model 3 reservations to a Bolt, but not his other one.

Reporter understood that one of the biggest disadvantages of the Bolt was its very limited fast charging network vs Supercharger network. Another was the lack of over-the-air software updates. He said the car was capable of over-the-air updates, but he doubted whether GM would use it because that would anger their dealers who want excuses to charge fees. Boomer said he had that problem with his i3, where BMW had good updates, but his dealer would refuse to install them unless he could find something wrong with the car, because they wouldn't deal with the car without being reimbursed by BMW.

NYTimes ran a story a week ago that claimed the Bolt was a "Model 3 killer" and that giant GM was going to crush Tesla. Based upon what I saw, this is Not going to happen. GM is producing the Bolt on one of their many regular assembly lines, mixed in with ICE cars, which reduces risk and allows them to scale production up or down to match demand. This reduces risk, but it also reduces production efficiency. Tesla, used to high risk, will produce the Model 3 with a highly automated assembly line where "humans are banned." I think we will get more car value the Tesla way.

It would be great if GM produces and sells 100K Bolts next year, which would further the EV revolution without seriously impacting Tesla or Model 3 sales.
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