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SDG&E EV Climate Credit

Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:55 am

For those live in the area served by SDG&E, there is a climate credit of at least $50 on your bill.

I believe this is in addition to the usual California Climate Credit. So the credit can be used to offset electricity charges.

http://www.sdge.com/clean-energy/electric-vehicle-climate-credit
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Re: SDG&E EV Climate Credit

Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:21 pm

Thanks for this.

It isn't automatic, you have to apply for it and upload your registration form.
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Re: SDG&E EV Climate Credit

Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:59 pm

Yes, Philip. It certainly isn't automatic. I work at the utility and we don't have a comprehensive list of EV drivers in the region. Only those who are on our special EV rate, which is a fraction. So there are many we don't know about. All EV drivers are welcome to come forward and register for the credit through May, and then the available funds will be split among the EVs later in the summer as a credit on your bill...Two EVs gets you two credits...

There's also a reference during the signup process to check out the EV rates we offer, so we're hoping that more drivers take advantage of the rates....

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Re: SDG&E EV Climate Credit

Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:25 pm

Thanks Randy.

Can you explain how the TOU-DR-E3 experimental tariff works? It looks like it could be beneficial for EV charging, but it looks pretty complex.
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Re: SDG&E EV Climate Credit

Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:05 pm

Hi Philip,
The TOU-DR-E3 rate is a new experimental rate that we're trying. The gist of it is as follows:

http://regarchive.sdge.com/tm2/pdf/ELEC ... -DR-E3.pdf

* There is a $10 monthly fee
* No Tiers
* No seasons
* This new rate is an hourly rate based on day-ahead CAISO wholesale electricity prices
* New definition of super off-peak - 12am - 6am weekdays, and 12am - 2pm weekends and holidays
* The overall rate is comprised of:
* A Base Rate (Which consists of SDG&E's retail components)
- 7 cents/kWh during super off-peak and 22.5 cents/kWh during all other hours)
* An Hourly Commodity Rate (which is determined on a day-ahead basis by the CAISO)
- usually a few cents per kWh
* Dynamic Hourly Adders for the top 150 power system loading hours per year and the top 200 Dist. Circuit hours per year
- 18.7 cents/kWh adder for top 200 hours of circuit loading per year and 69.3 cents/kWh for top 150 power system loading hours per year
- usually happens between June and early October each year, and they may be 4-6 hours per day
- less than 5% of the year
* Surplus Energy Credit (implemented on a day-of basis when there is a lower CAISO hourly price by 1 cent or more)

If you could do your charging and perhaps move other larger loads to the super off-peak time (and it is longer now on weekends), it will be cheaper than traditional rates...The goal is also for you to avoid charging and usage during the top 150 hours of power system loading and the top 200 hours of circuit loading...

Bottom line is that we're in a period of transition with rates. The old days of charging all customers a simple per kWh price that includes grid connection and the electricity commodity doesn't work anymore. We're attempting to test the waters with new rates like this to see how it works for customers....

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Re: SDG&E EV Climate Credit

Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:51 pm

Randy, thanks for your response.

How would you recommend for a customer on that tariff to get the correct price signals with it changing each day? Is it net metering eligible?
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Re: SDG&E EV Climate Credit

Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:50 pm

Thanks for the heads up on the program. This is the first I have of it here in San Diego.

Completed my application online. Sounds like first come first served. My confirmation is # 377.

Sound like you have to reapply every year from 2017 thru 2020. If you miss the deadline (before end of March CORRECTION by the end of May, but the sooner the better), you miss out until the next year opportunity. Sounds like it is for most plug-in vehicles including plug-in hybrids.
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Re: SDG&E EV Climate Credit

Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:52 am

philip wrote:Randy, thanks for your response.

How would you recommend for a customer on that tariff to get the correct price signals with it changing each day? Is it net metering eligible?

I am also wondering if this TOU-DR-E3 rate is NEM-eligible (I'm thinking not?) or whether it would even offer any advantage to EV owners with PV systems? It definitely is complicated in the way it is structured, and I don't understand a lot of the terms involved. If anybody can explain it, Randy can, I'm sure.

I got an email from SDG&E on April 5th about the EV climate credit and signed up right away, but there was a problem with the SS# they had stored in their system for me and it wouldn't go through. I had to call the accounting department and get them to correct the SS# entry on my account and then the application was accepted.

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Re: SDG&E EV Climate Credit

Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:10 am

Kind of a misnomer to call it super off-peak when it doesn't have a regular off-peak. It's one thing to shift usage like the dishwasher into the evening, another to delay it until after midnight. The extra week-end time would be helpful, both for extra charging for short weekend trips, and for laundry, etc... Hard to judge how it would affect a NEM customer compared to EV-2.
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Re: SDG&E EV Climate Credit

Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:53 am

davewill wrote:It's one thing to shift usage like the dishwasher into the evening, another to delay it until after midnight.


A lot of dishwashers have a delay timer now - so running a dishwasher after midnight isn't a big stretch.
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