johnrhansen
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Re: ICEless in Seattle : Official Pacific NorthWest thread

Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:37 pm

One more place that's really cool to visit is wild horse wind farm in the hills above vantage. You can make it there from the av in cle elum, look around while you charge (free tours plus a couple good hikes there), then either head back the way you came or go on highway 2 stopping at the av chargers on the way back. It's quite a climb there. You need to leave cle elum at 85 to 90 percent, or stop at ellensburg to top it off for an hour, dont go from ellensburg to vantage and then go back up. Thats a huge hill and would eat 50 percent.
2013 S model with quick charge package.
AV 30 amp level 2 EVSE, Bosch PowerMax 30 Amp EVSE, EVSE upgraded EVSE.

Assaf
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Re: ICEless in Seattle : Official Pacific NorthWest thread

Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:52 pm

Hi Y'all,

Just wanted to share with you that a Mt. Baker camping trip is totally possible with a Leaf! Surely a 2013+ one, but even a 2011-2.

We did it a few weeks ago. We set out of Seattle in a 2014 Leaf that has a QC. Going to Bellingham via Chuckanut drive (stopped for a hike, Fragrance Lake I think it's called), we arrived at the Bellingham Starbucks QC after 84 miles - nicely enough, that's the 2014's official EPA range - except that we still had 14 miles showing on the GOM. I'd maintained strict 55 MPH discipline on the I-5 (with ECO, B-mode and cruise on), except ambling up to ~60 for some of the 70-speed-limit stretch. Much of that stretch, though, the highway was crawling along anyway due to construction. We really weren't traveling that much slowly than the average car overall.

But I digress. Our night destination was Silver Lake County Park. That's some 36 miles and 800 feet up from Bellingham, so easily reachable after the QC, we were nearly half full when we got there. We slept at an RV spot (well, my sister came there with an RV, long story), and it was totally a breeze to refill to 100% by morning on trickle. And the park is nice, too; Ron Judd's Mountaineers book gives it 4 stars for good reason. The only downside is the showers are cold (yes, you put in coins and it spits cold water at you ;) ).

Next day we drove up the mountain, all the way to Artist Ridge. The campground is 38 miles from Artist Ridge, and you need to climb from 500 feet (you do some downhill from Silver Lake) to 5200 feet or so. We made it up there with 32% remaining; at the base of the 10-mile steep switchback part we were still at 65% or so. Coming back down, we regen'ed up to 48% after those 10 miles, and arrived back at Silver Lake with 34%! So the entire trip back was "free"! In fact, it seems we were consuming energy at a 110-mile range pace or so over that day trip.

On our drive back to Seattle, we charged at Burlington QC while eating lunch there, there's a small semi-gourmet American restaurant right there in the outlet store complex. In fact, both our QC stops were totally delay-free except the time to hook up, b/c at Bellingham going north we went grocery shopping at the supermarket there.

I was toying with the idea of trying to stretch it all the way home without any charging, it's 100-110 miles from Silver Lake to NE depending on how you go. But with kids and a couple of nieces, and a swim stop we made at Whatcom Lake adding some 10 miles to our trip, it wasn't the right time to play dare challenges.

Anyway - again - an easily enjoyable camping trip for any Leaf with a QC, all the way out to one of Washington's premier destination. The two USFS campgrounds further uphill from Silver Lake have no power AFAIK, but if there are any private RV parks on the Mt. Baker Road, they are an option too. Somehow though, the Silver Lake Park seems perfectly situated, both for approach in and for the mountain drive.

Cheers, Assaf

ResidentKirkland
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Re: ICEless in Seattle : Official Pacific NorthWest thread

Sun Oct 12, 2014 1:02 pm

Hi,

I am new to this forum and looking for some help.

I recently bought 2015 leaf and have a 250v 20amp outlet in garage.

Can you pls suggest a good Level 2 charger and any reasonable electricians who you have worked to install the charger in Seattle area? Also what should I expect the quote range?

Thanks in advance.

Blue

QueenBee
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Re: ICEless in Seattle : Official Pacific NorthWest thread

Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:35 pm

ResidentKirkland wrote:Hi,

I am new to this forum and looking for some help.

I recently bought 2015 leaf and have a 250v 20amp outlet in garage.

Can you pls suggest a good Level 2 charger and any reasonable electricians who you have worked to install the charger in Seattle area? Also what should I expect the quote range?

Thanks in advance.

Blue


Check out our group on FaceBook too: https://www.facebook.com/groups/seattlenissanleaf/

Are you planning on reusing your 240 volt 20 amp receptacle? What model LEAF did you get? If you have the 6kw charger option reusing that receptacle will allow you to only charge at 3.3kw which for most people is more than fast enough for home charging.

If you would like to install a new receptacle and EVSE to accommodate the full speed of the 6kw charger I'd recommend the Clipper Creek HCS-40 which is about $600 or $650 for the plug in model.

Electrician is probably in the neighborhood of $300 depending on if there are any difficult runs/etc.

PSE currently has a $500 rebate for installing an EVSE.

No sales tax for EVSEs in WA.

If you plan to reuse the receptacle that you have you can get the EVSE that came with the car upgraded for about $300 at EVSEUpgrade.

EV13
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Re: ICEless in Seattle : Official Pacific NorthWest thread

Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:25 pm

QueenBee wrote:
ResidentKirkland wrote:Hi,

I am new to this forum and looking for some help.

I recently bought 2015 leaf and have a 250v 20amp outlet in garage.

Can you pls suggest a good Level 2 charger and any reasonable electricians who you have worked to install the charger in Seattle area? Also what should I expect the quote range?

Thanks in advance.

Blue


Check out our group on FaceBook too: https://www.facebook.com/groups/seattlenissanleaf/

Are you planning on reusing your 240 volt 20 amp receptacle? What model LEAF did you get? If you have the 6kw charger option reusing that receptacle will allow you to only charge at 3.3kw which for most people is more than fast enough for home charging.

If you would like to install a new receptacle and EVSE to accommodate the full speed of the 6kw charger I'd recommend the Clipper Creek HCS-40 which is about $600 or $650 for the plug in model.

Electrician is probably in the neighborhood of $300 depending on if there are any difficult runs/etc.

PSE currently has a $500 rebate for installing an EVSE.

No sales tax for EVSEs in WA.

If you plan to reuse the receptacle that you have you can get the EVSE that came with the car upgraded for about $300 at EVSEUpgrade.


Do you know if PSE has that rebate for people who have leased their Leafs? I looked up their website and it doesn't mention their rebate policy on leased vehicles.

QueenBee
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Re: ICEless in Seattle : Official Pacific NorthWest thread

Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:02 pm

EV13 wrote:
QueenBee wrote:
ResidentKirkland wrote:Hi,

I am new to this forum and looking for some help.

I recently bought 2015 leaf and have a 250v 20amp outlet in garage.

Can you pls suggest a good Level 2 charger and any reasonable electricians who you have worked to install the charger in Seattle area? Also what should I expect the quote range?

Thanks in advance.

Blue


Check out our group on FaceBook too: https://www.facebook.com/groups/seattlenissanleaf/

Are you planning on reusing your 240 volt 20 amp receptacle? What model LEAF did you get? If you have the 6kw charger option reusing that receptacle will allow you to only charge at 3.3kw which for most people is more than fast enough for home charging.

If you would like to install a new receptacle and EVSE to accommodate the full speed of the 6kw charger I'd recommend the Clipper Creek HCS-40 which is about $600 or $650 for the plug in model.

Electrician is probably in the neighborhood of $300 depending on if there are any difficult runs/etc.

PSE currently has a $500 rebate for installing an EVSE.

No sales tax for EVSEs in WA.

If you plan to reuse the receptacle that you have you can get the EVSE that came with the car upgraded for about $300 at EVSEUpgrade.


Do you know if PSE has that rebate for people who have leased their Leafs? I looked up their website and it doesn't mention their rebate policy on leased vehicles.


Yes, leased is fine. You just have to be the registered owner which you are.

Adamboesel
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Re: ICEless in Seattle : Official Pacific NorthWest thread

Sun Nov 09, 2014 10:36 pm

Hey all! Having a surprisingly hard time figuring out how to get from portland to seattle. It appears I need an aerovironment membership to use the quick chargers?

I'm going on an adventure, picking up one of these new grid tied spin bikes from Sportsart:http://gosportsart.com/international/cardio/eco-powr-series/bikes/g510/

I'm aware it's probably a 6 hour+ trip, which is ok. I've had a leaf for a couple years, just don't go on long trips with it, so I only own a Blink fob that I haven't used in a year.

If anyone could give insight on how to plan the trip most efficiently, make sure I can use the quick chargers, etc., I'd appreciate it.

QueenBee
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Re: ICEless in Seattle : Official Pacific NorthWest thread

Sun Nov 09, 2014 10:41 pm

Adamboesel wrote:Hey all! Having a surprisingly hard time figuring out how to get from portland to seattle. It appears I need an aerovironment membership to use the quick chargers?

I'm going on an adventure, picking up one of these new grid tied spin bikes from Sportsart:http://gosportsart.com/international/cardio/eco-powr-series/bikes/g510/

I'm aware it's probably a 6 hour+ trip, which is ok. I've had a leaf for a couple years, just don't go on long trips with it, so I only own a Blink fob that I haven't used in a year.

If anyone could give insight on how to plan the trip most efficiently, make sure I can use the quick chargers, etc., I'd appreciate it.


Here is a trip report from someone who has done that: viewtopic.php?f=27&t=9323

If you don't get the AV monthly pass you'll have to rely on calling them to activate each West Coast highway DCQC. It likely makes sense to get the monthly pass for this trip as it will be much more reliable and convenient.

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Re: ICEless in Seattle : Official Pacific NorthWest thread

Sun Nov 09, 2014 11:21 pm

Adamboesel wrote:Hey all! Having a surprisingly hard time figuring out how to get from portland to seattle. It appears I need an aerovironment membership to use the quick chargers?...If anyone could give insight on how to plan the trip most efficiently, make sure I can use the quick chargers, etc., I'd appreciate it.
Here is my trip report from Portland to Centralia, Wa.. One more hop and we would have been in Seattle. You can read more details here (link).

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Re: ICEless in Seattle : Official Pacific NorthWest thread

Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:13 am

Adamboesel wrote:Hey all! Having a surprisingly hard time figuring out how to get from portland to seattle. It appears I need an aerovironment membership to use the quick chargers?

I'm going on an adventure, picking up one of these new grid tied spin bikes from Sportsart:http://gosportsart.com/international/cardio/eco-powr-series/bikes/g510/

I'm aware it's probably a 6 hour+ trip, which is ok. I've had a leaf for a couple years, just don't go on long trips with it, so I only own a Blink fob that I haven't used in a year.

If anyone could give insight on how to plan the trip most efficiently, make sure I can use the quick chargers, etc., I'd appreciate it.


That'll be no problem. Just start an AV membership for 20 bucks (you can kill it when you get home) and stop at every AV station on the way there and back. You'll probably have to find a Blink in Seattle; which will be the only tricky part. Just find one that's actually up on PlugShare.

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