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Re: ICEless in Seattle : Official Pacific NorthWest thread

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 11:07 pm
by rdhauser
Hi all. Dec 5 I need to go from Olympia to PSE at Bellevue. According to Plugshare, there is a Blink DHAdeMO at Nissan of Eastside. A few comments there make me wonder if I should depend on a quick in and out. There are parking places listed at Skyline Tower and something listed as "Office Building" (10885 Northeast 4th). Both are reasonably close to PSE so I could park there and walk.

Anyone have a suggestion they really like?

Re: ICEless in Seattle : Official Pacific NorthWest thread

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 8:43 am
by johnrhansen
you could always stop at younker Nissan in renton on the way up and back.

Re: ICEless in Seattle : Official Pacific NorthWest thread

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 10:08 am
by rdhauser
Good suggestion, I've used them once before. They seem very friendly about letting LEAF owners charge. I'll use them unless it looks like I can pay for a parking spot and charge while I'm at the meeting.

Re: ICEless in Seattle : Official Pacific NorthWest thread

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 1:17 pm
by QueenBee
rdhauser wrote:Hi all. Dec 5 I need to go from Olympia to PSE at Bellevue. According to Plugshare, there is a Blink DHAdeMO at Nissan of Eastside. A few comments there make me wonder if I should depend on a quick in and out. There are parking places listed at Skyline Tower and something listed as "Office Building" (10885 Northeast 4th). Both are reasonably close to PSE so I could park there and walk.

Anyone have a suggestion they really like?


There are a lot of options for DCQC in Bellevue. Eastside Nissan's Blink is a good option as it'll be close to where you are. Then there is another one on the west side of 405 just north of I-90. Bellevue College has a Blink. All three of these are pretty close to your route. Check PlugShare just before leaving for one to make sure there are no reports of them being down.

Re: ICEless in Seattle : Official Pacific NorthWest thread

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 1:54 pm
by rdhauser
Thanks, QB. You know, when looking around on PlugShare to find your suggestions (all good one's thank you much) I noticed that the 1772 in the "Office Building" might possibly be part of PSE. Since this is a holiday, no one is at the number (except emergency services), but it gets to PSE so I'm thinking that they have a charger.

Kind of a cool story, when I called I used the option to get to corporate offices and was connected to "emergency services". Lady didn't know the answer directly, but looked around for a bit to get me an extension to use Monday when they're open again. Nice she didn't just say "can't help" but gave me her best guess.

I'll call next week but now I'm thinking that what makes the most sense is to park and charge during the meeting and hit the DCQC at Tahoma Market on the way home if I think I need it.

Re: ICEless in Seattle : Official Pacific NorthWest thread

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 9:47 pm
by johnrhansen
Its funny, but charging twice on a longer trip is faster than once... why? Because you get to charge at full power, instead of the limited power at the top end of the charge Provided you don't have to wait your turn at the charger. In these temps, Bellevue to oly is about the max. Oly to renton is easy.. Of course, its even faster just to get to your destination and let it charge while you do your thing, but if it's not possible, I'd charge at younker. twice... to 80 percent.

Re: ICEless in Seattle : Official Pacific NorthWest thread

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:42 am
by DaveinOlyWA
johnrhansen wrote:Its funny, but charging twice on a longer trip is faster than once... why? Because you get to charge at full power, instead of the limited power at the top end of the charge Provided you don't have to wait your turn at the charger. In these temps, Bellevue to oly is about the max. Oly to renton is easy.. Of course, its even faster just to get to your destination and let it charge while you do your thing, but if it's not possible, I'd charge at younker. twice... to 80 percent.


that and its almost always more convenient for me and passengers to stop twice a few hours apart for 15 minutes than it is to stop for 30 minutes one time.

getting some snow today, probably gone tomorrow. anyone planning any journeys today?

Re: ICEless in Seattle : Official Pacific NorthWest thread

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 10:48 am
by pkulak
johnrhansen wrote:Its funny, but charging twice on a longer trip is faster than once... why? Because you get to charge at full power, instead of the limited power at the top end of the charge Provided you don't have to wait your turn at the charger. In these temps, Bellevue to oly is about the max. Oly to renton is easy.. Of course, its even faster just to get to your destination and let it charge while you do your thing, but if it's not possible, I'd charge at younker. twice... to 80 percent.


My little trick is to turn the car on (not full on, just two taps on the ignition button without a foot on the brake) after the charge starts, put the next charger in the GPS, and wait until the GOM says 15 more miles than the GPS does. I hate charging any more than I have to. Especially since the charging speed starts dropping immediately.

This only applies to AV chargers, or course. You need 100% certainty that the next charger will be operational. :D

Re: ICEless in Seattle : Official Pacific NorthWest thread

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 11:23 am
by johnrhansen
You have to be really careful doing that. If the rest of your trip is under similar conditions as before it works, but you have to tweak that number if you plan to drive slower/faster, uphill/downhill, etc. Also as I am driving I look for the dreaded convergence when the miles on the gps exceeds the gom. this means drive slower... unless of course it's downhill the rest of the way.

Re: ICEless in Seattle : Official Pacific NorthWest thread

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:52 am
by rdhauser
Reporting back on our trip to PSE. We charged at Yonker Nissan about 2:00 PM on Friday Dec 5. No hassles, but it was busy. One car had just hooked up. When they were done, a salesman changed over our car from the J1772 he started us with to the Quick charger and then came back to let us know hi'd done that. We got 20 min or so of charge and then took off. There were two cars waiting......

At PSE, we didn't find any open chargers because they were mostly taken up with company cars. I wouldn't depend on getting a charge there. Also parking fee is a bit high for us yolks from Oly. $11 for about two hours.

At our PSE event, we were invited to a dinner in Burien, so we left PSE and charged up at Burien Nissan. Very successful quick charge there. That dealership had a good "vibe" from what we could tell.

After our dinner, we headed home and decided to stop at the Tahoma Market quick charger for a security charge. We thought we were just about through with the seventh bar (just below half a tank) and so selected 60% charge from the Blink quick charge options. That wasn't quite enough so I suspect there is some difference between what we track and what a charger gets from he car's system. We got home fine, but the last two or three miles were under the Low battery warning. Didn't ever see turtle, though. If we stop for a security charge in the future, I'm sure we'll take the time to get more charge than we need.