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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Tue Jun 06, 2017 12:29 pm

ObiQuiet wrote:What is the provenance of the image shown here by carscoops?

Is it from Nissan to represent the next Leaf, or did someone else make it up? (Note the copyrights - )

http://www.carscoops.com/2017/03/future ... keeps.html


The image belongs to the folks that watermarked the rendering. It did not originate from Nissan. Notice the headlights are different from the official Nissan photo of that detail.
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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Tue Jun 06, 2017 12:33 pm

Reddy wrote:So, if you're interested in seeing the new LEAF, my guess is that you show up at high-profile NDEW events around SF and LA.


I would bet that NDEW events in San Diego and Seattle, as well as Denver, Atlanta and some place in the Northeast would also be a place to catch a glimspe of LEAF/Next.
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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:48 pm

That CarScoops rendering is someone's educated guess.

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Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:40 am

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edatoakrun wrote:Nissan's mass roll-out of AEB will precede Propilot on most USA models, and will be standard equipment on 2018 (gen 2) LEAF, among others:

Nissan to offer standard Automatic Emergency Braking (AEB) on one million U.S. vehicles in 2018 model year

Nissan today announced that it is making Automatic Emergency Braking (AEB) standard on a projected one million vehicles sold in the United States for model year 2018...

http://nissannews.com/en-US/nissan/usa/ ... model-year


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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:11 pm

OrientExpress wrote:
Reddy wrote:So, if you're interested in seeing the new LEAF, my guess is that you show up at high-profile NDEW events around SF and LA.


I would bet that NDEW events in San Diego and Seattle, as well as Denver, Atlanta and some place in the Northeast would also be a place to catch a glimspe of LEAF/Next.

Don't know why this is in September. Invariably it will be a cold, wet day in Seattle.
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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:03 pm

evnow wrote:
OrientExpress wrote:
Reddy wrote:So, if you're interested in seeing the new LEAF, my guess is that you show up at high-profile NDEW events around SF and LA.


I would bet that NDEW events in San Diego and Seattle, as well as Denver, Atlanta and some place in the Northeast would also be a place to catch a glimspe of LEAF/Next.

Don't know why this is in September. Invariably it will be a cold, wet day in Seattle.


Maybe but we generally have more good days than bad until early October
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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:53 am

GetOffYourGas wrote:
rmay635703 wrote:
340 mile range on 60kw?

Seems a little off


They must mean 340km. On the Japanese cycle.


it is "miles" but still on the Japanese Cycle.

Actually its using the rather generous NEDC - New European Driving Cycle.
The article is published online by a United Kingdom magazine/website aimed at Europe.
And if you do a rough calculation the 340 miles equates to about 245 miles on the USA EPA testing parameters - right in the Chevy Bolt ballpark.
And we should probably note that the author states its a "prediction" not that any info or statements have been forthcoming from Nissan etc.

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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:28 am

Reliable (?) second-hand report on gen 2...

New details on the 2018 Nissan Leaf

...Let’s sum up the best parts:

Battery capacity increases by 30 % from 30 to about 39 kWh.
Not surprising, considering that if we look at the new Eaton Nissan xStorage battery capacity, the math points to 38,4 kWh. However, Nissan has always reported the total battery capacity, but I’ve been told that from now on, only the usable battery capacity would be advertised – the same way Renault does with its electric cars. If this proves to be true, it would mean that the 38,4 kWh would be usable capacity...

Nissan didn’t reach a deal with LG Chem and keeps the AESC battery cell production going for now.
The new Nissan Leaf made in Japan will get its batteries from Smyrna, Tennessee in the USA...

More powerful motor, probably over 100 kW.

Super strong regenerative braking that completely stops the car – maybe even surpassing the BMW i3...

Available to order in early October, after the official unveil in September...

http://pushevs.com/2017/06/09/new-detai ... ssan-leaf/

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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:19 am

edatoakrun wrote:More powerful motor, probably over 100 kW.

Super strong regenerative braking that completely stops the car – maybe even surpassing the BMW i3...

http://pushevs.com/2017/06/09/new-detai ... ssan-leaf/

Nice Find! More power and stronger re-gen will check a couple of boxes on my wish list. Nissan is going to take some grief if they only launch with a 40kWh battery but the price is really the key - they just have to keep the price away from the Bolt. How much lower is the question... But a 150 mile car would certainly work for me.
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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:42 am

It will be interesting if the new Leaf launches with a less than 60 kWh battery. Many other reputable EV sites are reporting that 60 kWh is confirmed. However, it wouldn't surprise me if a more Zoe sized battery is correct. That would put Nissan at the front of the pack of affordable mid-range EVs and thus not competing directly with the Bolt or Model 3 while severely undercutting both in price. This could be a really smart move. The Tesla fanbois will of course declare it a huge mistake, but at the end of the day, sales are what matter. And, I suspect that a new 41 kWh Leaf with a sub-$30K starting price before incentives will sell well.
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