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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Thu May 18, 2017 11:27 am

NavyCuda wrote:My 2015 SV, LEDs were not optional. I would prefer cloth interior with led headlights though. Perhaps that's a Canadian market difference.


Yeah, in 2015 Nissan dropped the lighting technology package for North America, but in 2018 it should be back. Essentially you would be able to configure a SV almost like an SL with the difference being cloth interior instead of leather. I'm like you, I don't care for the leather seating option, especially since it was available only in black.
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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Thu May 18, 2017 12:03 pm

NeilBlanchard wrote:This image makes me think the camouflaged cars we have been seeing are mules - and the new Leaf will be a total redesign.

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2017/05/nissan-has-begun-teasing-its-next-gen-leaf.html


I'm curious as to why it makes you think that. And if they are just mules, why update parts of the body and then cover it with camo? Is it just Nissan trying to attract attention by publicly hiding something?

And why would the mules have the newer headlights? Just to try them out in the real world? Does that really give you a significant benefit over testing them in a more controlled environment?
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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Thu May 18, 2017 1:46 pm

Nissan sent out a worthless, info-less email (except to hint that delivery will be in 2018, not 2017) on the new Leaf. Just that stupid teaser image of headlights and virtually nothing else.

Why reuse much of the existing body? Because Nissan will be competing on price, and conceding specs like range and power to GM.
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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Thu May 18, 2017 2:39 pm

I got the email and I didn't see anywhere that it hinted that delivery would be in 2018. The email has several links that lead to various Nissan webpages. There is even a sub-headline to one of the links entitled "Performance you wouldn’t get from a V8".

Haters gonna hate I guess.
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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Thu May 18, 2017 3:18 pm

From a link in the email you click:


The all-new Nissan LEAF* will be coming soon. Until it arrives, we'll keep you in the know with the latest updates. Sit tight, buckle up and get ready for an exciting ride.
* The LEAF is not yet available for purchase. Expected availability in early 2018. Pre-production model shown; see actual production vehicle when available for final details on features.


Haters gonna hate I guess.


And fanatics gonna swoon.
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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Thu May 18, 2017 3:20 pm

LeftieBiker wrote: Why reuse much of the existing body? Because Nissan will be competing on price, and conceding specs like range and power to GM.

Who are you answering here? I didn't ask that and don't see any other post that did.
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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Thu May 18, 2017 3:24 pm

I saw that too, on one of the Nissan pages, "delivery early 2018" but that'll be the general case anyway, Californians who order 9/5 will have best shot at 2017 deliveries.

But I don't think I like the headlight design. Not the main headlights, they're fine. But that LED strip over them looks fragile, at least in that photo. It looks like it could be easily broken off. It doesn't seem to match any of the spy or concept images.
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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Thu May 18, 2017 3:32 pm

GetOffYourGas wrote:
LeftieBiker wrote: Why reuse much of the existing body? Because Nissan will be competing on price, and conceding specs like range and power to GM.

Who are you answering here? I didn't ask that and don't see any other post that did.


NeilBlanchard wrote:
This image makes me think the camouflaged cars we have been seeing are mules - and the new Leaf will be a total redesign.

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2017 ... -leaf.html
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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Thu May 18, 2017 5:56 pm

Based on previous promises from Nissan (very few batteries will need to be replaced before 100 K miles. and that cells will be individually replaceable, I will wait to purchase a 3 y/o used 2.0, if they prove to be worth while.


http://www.plugincars.com/replacing-ev- ... 22261.html
Simon Sproule, a Nissan vice president, says that it’s unlikely that whole LEAF packs will need to be replaced when the magic 75 to 80 percent threshold is reached. Instead, he said, EV medics can find bad cells and replace them, at a cost of hundreds of dollars, not thousands. I hadn’t heard that before, but LEAF salesman Paul Scott tells me that it’s possible to “replace certain underperforming cells rather than the whole pack.”

Ferry says that not all packs are designed for the replacement of individual cells or modules, though the LEAF pack definitely is. Omo Velev of AeroVironment, who consults with the California Center, said that EV packs are designed to maintain even degradation across all cells, but in practice some go bad faster than others. If enough of them do that, the utility of the while pack is compromised.

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Thoughts on 2018 Leaf

Fri May 19, 2017 3:36 am

Is anyone holding off acquiring a Leaf in anticipation of the 60kwh 2018 model?

Assuming it will cost 7-10k more, I don't know if it is worth it. If your daily mileage is within the 24/30kwh range why lug around that extra weight. I guess it relieves some range anxiety and is a good buffer against battery degradation.

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