webeleafowners
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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:00 pm

At minus 15 we can easily get 140 KM with our 2016 Nissan Leaf. For us though that is a 70/30 split between city and highway.

Hope that helps.
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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:08 pm

So if they are not launching with a 200 mile but if I have to wait at least a year for one then why should I wait and shouldn't I buy a 2017 at these prices and then in 2019 upgrade.


In your case the 2017 is probably fine, despite the apparent too-fast deterioration of the packs. For two years a bargain 2017 sounds good. Just remember that the high beams will be terrible.
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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:34 pm

I was also resisting to go with first year of a new model (2nd Gen leaf) since I was always under the impression year 2 forward is when glitches are worked out. But are there issues with the 2017 version of the first Gen? Makes me wonder if the 2018 model will have many issues.

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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:32 pm

There are design issues that Nissan never addressed (headlights, steering wheel heater thermostat) and things that they 'de-featured' (80% charge option, rear seat heaters in all models but SL).
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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:30 am

Dgcan75 wrote:I test drove a 2017 Leaf 3 months ago since the price is so good and I wanted to buy but the salesman told me that the value will crash when the 2018 is announced as it will have 200 mi. So I didn't buy even though my work drive round trip is 40 miles. So if they are not launching with a 200 mile but if I have to wait at least a year for one then why should I wait and shouldn't I buy a 2017 at these prices and then in 2019 upgrade. Do you think it will be more than a 80% chance there will not be a 200 mile leaf before summer 2018?


If there is a 200 mile leaf it will be much more expensive. It's pretty easy to get a 2017 for $22-24K. The same won't be true for any car with a 60kW battery. If it meets your needs, I would get it. I was a little apprehensive to buy my 2014 with 87%SOH, but I'm glad I did. I don't need any more range than what it has. My round trip commute is 42 miles.

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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:16 am

evnow wrote:


Somehow, I don't think there will be a great demand for the 40kWh Leaf - that tons of people will preorder and wait for months & months. Like we did in 2011. May be Leaf sales will be back to 3k per month level - like in 2014.


I don't think the GCR article said that the new Leaf would have a 40kWh pack.

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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:56 am

Dgcan75 wrote:I test drove a 2017 Leaf 3 months ago since the price is so good and I wanted to buy but the salesman told me that the value will crash when the 2018 is announced as it will have 200 mi. So I didn't buy even though my work drive round trip is 40 miles. So if they are not launching with a 200 mile but if I have to wait at least a year for one then why should I wait and shouldn't I buy a 2017 at these prices and then in 2019 upgrade. Do you think it will be more than a 80% chance there will not be a 200 mile leaf before summer 2018?


Actually the value crashed when the proposed announcement for the new LEAF was first speculated. They are going for half price now so a "crash" is still possible but how much damage will occur when dropped from a foot off the ground? ;)
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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:26 pm

Anyone want to guess whether Nissan will promote ProPilot, and have ~this high a take rate in the USA-built 2018 LEAF gen 2?

Nissan Wins Over Japan With a $27,000 Hands-Free Minivan

At 3 million yen ($27,400), Nissan Motor Co.’s Serena minivan was the first model in Japan in its price bracket that offers what’s known in the industry as Level-2 autonomous driving features, similar to what Tesla Inc. offers with its Autopilot function in the $80,000 Model S. A car with Level-2 functionality can control steering and speed simultaneously without intervention for a short period, allowing the driver to take his hands off the wheel and foot off pedal at the same time.

Nissan chose to debut its autonomous features in its mass-market model instead of the premium Infiniti brand, and the decision has paid off for the automaker. Sales of Serena surged 67 percent in the August-to-May period to make it the second best-selling model for the manufacturer. A more-than-expected 60 percent of Serena buyers opted for the ProPilot driver-assist system...

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ee-minivan
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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:21 am

Looks like we don't have to work about the Leaf 2 being a cosmetic refresh of the old chassis:
http://www.autoblog.com/amp/2017/06/21/ ... amouflage/
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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:45 am

Firetruck41 wrote:Looks like we don't have to work about the Leaf 2 being a cosmetic refresh of the old chassis:


Not sure I follow your reasoning. Per the discussion above and elsewhere, this could still be just a cosmetic refresh (albeit a major one). I see no indication from these spy shots that the chassis itself has changed.

I do like what I see, though. I cannot wait to see more of the 2018 Leaf!
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