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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:28 pm

Those two pics are pretty good. Anyone have access to the Facebook group to post more pics here? I seem to not be able to see any of them or have no way to "join" that group.

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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:49 pm

OrientExpress wrote:The efficiency number that I look for is the miles per kWh. On average every BEV out there today is in the 4.5 mile/kWh range, from Nissan to Tesla. Of course, there will always be Hypermilers that get significantly better mileage, but on average the number is in the 4~4.5 mile range.


You must not spend much time on the Tesla forums (teslamotorsclub.com). They talk about (333 wh/m) 3 miles per kWh like it's good efficiency. You talk to them about (250 wh/m) 4 miles per kWh and they'll look at you like you are crazy.
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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:07 pm

I'll be disappointed if the Gen Two LEAF can't at least come close to matching the Ioniq's efficiency, which is impressive in near-ideal conditions:

This may not exactly be real world, but...
Last Sunday someone from Germany drove in his Ioniq EV all day and set a record range of 400 km (249 miles)!
Efficiency was 6.6 kWh/100km or 15.2 km/kWh (10.6 kWh/100mi or 9.4 mi/kWh).

https://speakev.com/threads/real-world- ... 633/page-4

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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:13 am

DNAinaGoodWay wrote:My favorites:


Wow, those are great photos. I hadn't seen them before, thanks for sharing!

I hadn't seen the chargeport open like that before. I was under the impression that it was still the lower part of the "grill" that opened. I guess not. I'm glad they are keeping the connectors up front. IMO, that's the best place for them.
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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:23 am

jdcbomb wrote:Those two pics are pretty good. Anyone have access to the Facebook group to post more pics here? I seem to not be able to see any of them or have no way to "join" that group.


Easy to join. Click the join button on the group's page and a very short time later someone accepts you.

Here's another:

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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:34 pm

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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:42 pm


Very interesting, if correct:

...Based on the charging stats, I believe the car has a 50-60 kWh battery. As a side note, the gen2 car seems rather large compared to the gen1 car, I believe the wheelbase is about 10-12" longer...
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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:21 pm

I find both of those hard to believe, unless the test car is testing the 60kwh pack that will be available next year. That would make sense.
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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:35 pm

dhanson865 wrote:You must not spend much time on the Tesla forums (teslamotorsclub.com). They talk about (333 wh/m) 3 miles per kWh like it's good efficiency. You talk to them about (250 wh/m) 4 miles per kWh and they'll look at you like you are crazy.

The Model S is a big car; it's not surprising that 400 Wh/mi is considered "average". When I first got ours, that's about what I was getting. Now that I've grown into the car I regularly get under 300 Wh/mi for local driving. What's funny is that when use it for commuting (once a week or so), I get 250 Wh/mi (4 mi/kWH) on the way home, which is just a bit worse than the 4.3 mi/kWh (233 Wh/mi) what I get in the LEAF (which I commute in the rest of the time).
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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:28 pm

I also saw a test mule charging in Tacoma and I was surprised that the car does appear to be longer than my LEAF. If I had to guess, maybe 6-10" or so? Guessing this means more rear leg room and larger cargo space. I guess reclining rear seats like the Prius V might be nice as well
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